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Things to say to you

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Just some thing I've been wanting to say to David...

First off, you're a monumental asshole. You have an ego the size of a small planet and it's irritating watching you act like an important SOB when you're basically just a nobody.

Second, your webcomics aren't funny. They're boring tripe that makes Penny Arcade look good(and believe me, Penny Arcade is garbage). Cyanide and Happiness is a funny webcomic, yours is not. Your "jokes" are painful, about like watching Michael Richards yell the n-word as a routine. You don't draw a comic, you draw an opinionated blog. I'm not sure which name suits your crap better, "ShitPacked" or "ShortDicked".

Your liberalism and your love of Indiana get on my nerves. You jab at Mallard Filmore? Yeah, one shitty comic making fun of another shitty comic. Or are you just pissed that his gets in newspapers while you're JUST a webcomic? As to Indiana, I live here, and if it were up to me, the state would be walled off and none of the freaks living there allowed to interact with the rest of the planet. The state is about 3 decades behind the times. But something tells me even you know this otherwise you'd still live here. I sure as hell do not live here by choice and as soon as I can, I'm moving far away from this joke of a state.

And your brand loyalty is typical fandom crap. You have Aaron Archer's rod so far down your throat it's unreal. And Aryan fucktard Michael Bay's rod has apparently joined it. I'd say soemthing abotu Don Murphy but he was born without one. Actually, I can say something- he's Kevin "unfunny asshole" Smith with more body fat. Hasbro didn't give the film to a competent director, just a cheap one. And neither Speilberg or ILM have done anything useful in years. Give WETA, or even Tom Savini a chance and we wouldn't be getting Bionicle bots. You're afraid to not like a Hasbro product. No wonder they don't have to go out of the way to please the "fans"- you'll accept it no matter what. But hey, you personally have been sucking off incompetent British bonehead Simon Furman and his shitty stories for years. There are no gods in Transformers. Unicron was built by a monkey, little man. Furman is dog shit.

And go figure this TF wiki is a joke full of misinformation, insults or outright lies- you're a mod here. You're never right. You're more of an incorrect pompous jerkoff than Defunct is. Right, ban me from editing, as if it would somehow matter, any info you don't agree with is pulled. You only have friends because people feel sorry for you. Me, I have no need. People are a commodity to be used and their wants only get in the way of what I'm out for. Use them and drop them.

Who am I? Go look who added a note about you on Encyclopedia Dramatica's Allspark page if you're not too lazy. As well as past AS, Kalidor, FIRRIB and Hooks entries(the hooks entry especially true). Oh, and just info on white people in general and that idiotic Nintendo Wii. I'm not making it that easy for you.

Is it my birthday? This stuff feeds me. --ItsWalky 02:19, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Duuuuude. Walky may be a dick, but I still like him for some inexplicable reason. You, on the other hand, are just one sore drama queen.--Nevermore 17:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
This is some of the most funny stuff I've seen in a while. Comedy PLATINUM. --M Sipher 02:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Bwa ha ha ha ha. Priceless. I think someone needs to get off the internets for a few minutes. Chip 02:49, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Wait, you mean I didn't get drunk and write this? -hx 05:47, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
I wish lame puns happened to me. Interrobang 20:08, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

Why do I get the feeling that guy has been permanently banned?Mr. Florky 15:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

Wow, an Encyclopedia Dramatica troll. No need to be so harsh on Walky. I, too, like the Baybots, and, I happen to like Bionicle. Also, his Webcomic is one of my favorites. So, if you have nothing nice to say, never ever EVER come back here.--Dynamus Prime 16:22, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

BANNED

What the hell did I do to warrant a ban, exactly? As far as I'm aware, I don't even think I broke any rules, and if I did, an official warning would be appropriate. I received no such warning. I was not here for trolling and you know that - you use that bullshit excuse to get people to ignore arguments you can't handle. But you, personally, who made this decision, know I'm not a troll.

This is fucking low. I had little enough respect for you down to your ranting against the fanbase, Willis, but this is a whole new level of buggery. If you're going to use your comic to rant against and discredit people you don't like, the least you can do is suck it up when people rant at you back, and not act like a control-freak child.

I really don't think you're aware of your own actions anymore.

Do the words "warning before ban" mean anything to you? Rulemongering doesn't justify a decision anyway, since Walky is one of the people making the rules. There were plenty of personal attacks leveled at me, but I did not report them officially.
I really find it hard to believe that you think it's completely on a rational level of discourse to claim that the comic strip I draw is about child pornography. If I'm not mistaken about your identity, you've been banned from almost every single Transformers web board you've had an acquaintance with, and I'm only doing this place a favor by getting rid of you. --ItsWalky 00:22, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
That's not an excuse. I will openly admit I HAVE been banned from several forums, but only because I repeatedly opposed the staff on each and every one of them; and with good cause, they all have roughly the same problem. People bully others either into liking the movie or to agree with the kind of views you promote - and since nobody can directly attack or discredit anyone, these people(and you are) are left to their methods.
For your current decision to be validated, the admins of those boards, boards which are influenced in turn by your anti-fan attitude, would have to be near 100% correct in their decisions, and those decisions would have to occur within a context that would map exactly onto here. Any rational moderator does not base their decisions so much off performance on other boards, especially when it's not even a messageboard they're operating. Two different media. I have openly said I despise all active Transformers boards for their level of authoritarianism, yet level of tolerance towards the pushing of certain viewpoints.


Not to mention that you're still operating under the fallacy of Appeal to Majority - that alone means I shouldn't really even have to counter you.
And don't even use the "CHILD PORNOGRAPHY" thing as an excuse. Again, any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban, I personally reversed that edit even though it was obviously intended to be a joke as anyone reading this knows what pile'o'bile already is. You have no justification for what you did, but your ego is too big to realise you can actually do wrong with your power. You'll never admit it, but I wouldn't be surprised if some part of you is pissed that I defeated some of your ramblings, whether they were directly written by you or encouraged by you, it's still the kind of guff you normally blew, and I managed to defeat it. You, and the mods of the big sites will always have your ban buttons - but you will NEVER be able to justify your actions to me. That's how I know that I'm in the right, at least in situations like this - solidly backed justification is almost always absent.
Personal attacks + deleting comments in response to you = banno --ItsWalky 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
P.S. Sign your posts. --ItsWalky 00:36, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I have never intentionally deleted comments in response to me. I just moved one recently as it was in the middle of a paragraph of text. Not to mention that happened after you banned my original IP. Personal attacks alone are not grounds enough for a ban, especially when you're doing an awful, awful lot to be mercilessly torn into.

Need I point out that once again, you are unable to defend yourself properly? When does the "You're insane?" come? Ganging up of all your little friends since a majority always means you're right? Do you even realise what a fascist shithead you sound like? Just because you're an admin of a place doesn't give you a free pass to be a dick with it. There's a difference between what you can do and what you should do that you don't seem to have learned yet.

User:67.159.44.88

YOU BAN PEOPLE BECAUSE ****YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE

TRUTH****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111twelve FUCKING FASCIST PIGCOP NAZI WIKIPEDO ASSHOLE -hx 00:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

My gosh, now that I have seen someone mock the notion, it MUST be untrue. Please, where can I learn these 1337 debating skills?
Dude, I've been banned from twice as many forums as you, guaranfuckingteed, but they still let me post here because I'm not as goddamn retarded as you are. -hx 00:34, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
And can you demonstrate exactly how I'm more retarded than you? Or are you just, Walky style, dropping weighted terms to discredit someone's point of view without even trying?
1. Hoop doesn't delete other people's comments on talk pages. 2. He actually signs his posts, which you've been asked to do many times, but haven't caught on. --FortMax 00:40, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
I didn't delete anything. If I did, it was an accident because someone posted right in the middle of text it wasn't meant to be in the middle of. Not signing my posts doesn't make me retarded since it's blatant when I'm saying something. --User:67.159.44.88

Actually - come to think of it, you make fun of the idea that anyone running a site can be Nazi, yet you still mention you got banned from many forums. Does that perhaps mean that you genuinely got banned for being an asshole and not opposing the staff/local clique like I did?

any rational moderator would warn several times before a ban
Not true, some things are auto-ban. I don't think you did any of them, but I'm just saying.
Dude- you got an expedited ban because you showed no signs of contrition, argued every point, used personal insults, refused to sign your posts even when repeatedly asked to (I had to go back into history and dig out which incoherent chunks of text where yours, because the posts weren't hierarchied properly so the debate was really hard to follow. This is why signin posts is important dumbfuck.)
And ultimately you got banned because you were making a major nuisance of yourself in without any correlating contribution to justify keeping you around. You're a negative. You edited 3 articles- Fandom, Shortpacking and Ruined Forever- and all' of those edits got reverted because they either flames or crappy jokes that make the articles worse. Even if I were to (generously) believe you didn't intend to start a fight, you picked the 3 flamebaitiest articles you could find and masturbated across them. Allah forfend you should write an episode summary or something.
Unrelated- Walky can Talk:Fandom be semi-protected instead of full? Loserbot isn't registered. -Derik01:06, 4 August 2007 (UTC)


Tip

If persistent trolls (especially those with offensive usernames) repeatedly re-create their user talk pages, the best method to deal with it would be to include the page on Project:Title blacklist and delete the vandalism user talk page. This would be better than protecting the actual page since the the vandalism page would technically not exist, won't come up in searches, and won't be indexed on search engines. In addition, the removal of such pages might discourage the trolls since they may see those pages as their accomplishments, which would encourage them to continue their disruption. GHe (Talk) 00:23, 21 December 2007 (UTC)


Joepedia permission

You'll be happy to know that I have posted on the community talk forum as you suggested. I'll wait for the consensus. Thanks for letting me know before I stepped on EVERYBODY's toes. --Destron Commander 06:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Prowl 2

Could you merge Talk:Prowl 2 with Talk: Prowl (RID)? Nobody is going to be able to find it since Prowl 2 is a redirect. --FortMax 19:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)




Sorry

Sorry Willis, but your talk page has gotten too damned big. I've put all non-active topics into 2006 and 2007 archives except for the topics by Rosalie and Hilarious Stalker Guy. --FortMax 22:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, sir. --ItsWalky 02:55, 19 January 2008 (UTC)


Destronium

Sorry 'bout that, Walky. Inadequate (i.e., zero) warning of edit conflicts happened again. Well, at least you got a better caption the second time around.--Apcog 18:57, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


you deleted the wrong page

You deleted Image talk:Bstreak.gif instead of Image:Bstreak.gif. --FortMax 22:56, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Go here.

Talk:Along Came a Spider

--Fannus Maximus 17:37, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I think it's time for a pruning

the To Be Deleted category is has quite a few empty categories, and a ton of troll user paged and images that aren't used anywhere, or just on banned user's pages. --FortMax 18:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)


Troll user and user talk pages

Could you delete the various troll-owned user and user talk pages? It generally isn't a good idea to keep those around. (This includes the fully protected ones. You can add them to Transformers Wiki:Title blacklist if needed) --FortMax 23:53, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I oppose this measure as part of my general policy of opposing things. -Derik 23:55, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
Counterpoint.--Apcog 21:49, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Dunno....

Is it me, or does MARV 2000 act about like Assaulthead did before he decided to clumsily mash together military weapons, South Park references, and parts of the female anatomy he has never seen?--RosicrucianTalk 00:22, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Waaaiiit...

When you deleted my Cheetor grin thing on the discussion page, the edit summary was "No." Does that mean "No, Supreme Cheetor's not the one with the stupid grin," or "No, you can't ask this question here?"

Or does it mean both? The Big Q 18:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
Never mind. The Big Q 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Lame

Lame. --Might Gaine 02:16, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Dude, I know. -hx 19:32, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

i didnt vandalize ur page!!! it was my bro he hacked in2 my account i will change my password now!!! American Girl 13:53, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Wheeljack's ears

How about an animated gif of Wheeljack's Ear-Thingies glowing for his page? I don't have one, but I think it'd be a good idea. Talk:Wheeljack (G1)

MISTER Q (Mr. means I'm a GUY) 16:28, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't think that's necessary. --ItsWalky 17:36, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
Well, you're the admin.

MISTER Q (Mr. means I'm a GUY) 17:57, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

You should see this...

Tf name generator

This is on the TF Name Generator page.

MR. Q (I'm a GUY) 13:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

He's seen it.--RosicrucianTalk 14:05, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay. Just making sure he knew about it. MR. Q (I'm a GUY) 14:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
This looks shopped. I can tell from the pixels, and from seeing quite a few shops in my time.--Dynamus Prime 16:26, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
Of course it's photoshopped. Hasbro's Transformer-name generator is not going to call a kid "Bitchpants." --ItsWalky 16:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

I don't hate Wlky in the least ,but You have to admit ,this IS pretty funny!Imnotflorodery 16:39, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

How could you!?!

Why would you get rid of the trivia i added, their is nothing wrong and it isn't vandilising so would you mind telling me why it should be deleted and not kept? Talk:Behellmorph

I did tell you why. Read the edit comment I made when I reverted it. --ItsWalky 00:34, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
Okay fine, i wasn't paying attention to the replie but have you got a grudge against me or somethin? when i added a picture featuring the Barricade cars you got rid of it. I exept the deletion of the text since i missed what Didgit did but why the picture, could you at least allow me to keep the Riddler triva as least. Talk:Behellmorph
I got rid of the Barricade shot because, like 30 million other things we had to delete when the first movie was being made, we don't deal in snuck photos from the set or of props or whatever. --ItsWalky 16:15, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Fusion Cannon

Walky,don´t remove my edits at the fusion cannon page saying there has not been any official release please,it says fusion cannon on the back of the box. Decepticon Rhinox 00:12, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

That would be the back of the box of a toy that has not yet actually been released to retail, would it not?--RosicrucianTalk 00:15, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
Is said box in an photograph released by Hasbro or the Fan Club, or of the Hasbro booth at a convention, or from a toy released in actual stores? If not, the box was stolen from Hasbro. We do not post things we only know of because of stolen toys. --FortMax 00:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It did leak out into several stores throughout singapore and the usa though,so i´m pretty sure what i read,and i´m pretty sure i didn´t get it from a thief. Decepticon Rhinox 00:24, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not officially released, therefore it's offlimits. Them's the breaks. --ItsWalky 00:40, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Fine,whatever. Decepticon Rhinox 09:38, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Spotlights

Hi -- I left a message on Talk:Main Page about the Wikia spotlights. Let me know if you have any more problems with stuff like that... I'd be happy to talk with you guys about promoting the site in a way that makes you happy, and not angry. -- Danny@fandom (talk) 17:59, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion Log

 "ItsWalky (Talk | contribs) (deleted "God":"
"There is more than one god on this wiki.)"

I just wanted to say I found these text strings from today's Deletion Log highly amusing, especially when separated like that. I'm sure there's a lesson in here somewhere.--Apcog 02:14, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

now that you banned him..

Inferno'sQueen is a Kremzeek sockpuppet. ShinkisRule 18:10, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

And you're another one, huh? Why else would you know, care, or mention this? --ItsWalky 18:41, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
Personally, it looks like Kremmy came up with a long string of ridiculous socks to distract away from his "real" account (Inferno's Queen). IQ was where he was actually trying to be a productive member and by comparison to the troll socks would seem sensible. Of course, IQ was still too annoying by half. I'd wager ShinkisRule is his sister again.--RosicrucianTalk 18:45, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Adding photos?

Hi Walky,

I'm curious what the rules on Teletraan I are for adding photos. I do some macro photography and thought I could help add some original photos for various articles. Are there any rights issues I should know about? I would like to get a credit for the photo but otherwise I have no other issue (something like this - http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/). I don't even mind hosting if it is necessary.

Furthermore, are there rules to the type of photo format used? (White background/etc?)

66.130.54.20 18:49, 3 April 2008 (UTC)The Drifter

We prefer white backgrounds, yes, and you're welcome to credit yourself when you upload your own images. (They may be automatically released to public domain upon doing so, I am not sure of the specifics. I know our written text is.) --ItsWalky 18:58, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
I know we do have Template:Copyleft for use in tagging images for copyleft licensing.--RosicrucianTalk 19:01, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Moving mirrorverse Prime

The Prime in Games of Deception is G1 prime, right? Going on standard disambuig, mirrorverse Prime should be at Optimus Prime (Timelines) as he is the only Optimus Prime introduced in the Timelines line. Also, is there another Ruckus in Timelines? --FortMax 05:03, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I still think we should be using (Shattered Glass) for all the Shattered Glass guys, and not (Timelines). I think that makes the articles more easily recognizable for what they are when seen by people browsing through catgeories. --KilMichaelMcC 05:14, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Monaco skin

Hi Walky -- I posted on the Community portal last week about moving this wiki over to the new Monaco skin. It's had some discussion, but nothing so far from the admins. What do you think? -- Danny@fandom (talk) 19:18, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm spamming

Canvassing a few talkpages here so we can get folks to weigh in and finalize the potential Wiki image policy. Your input would be appreciated at Transformers Wiki talk:Images.--RosicrucianTalk 18:34, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Main page talk:Premiums

I'm a winner but the post is gone?!? *confusion* BenHur 16:07, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

You're not supposed to post toy sightings on the main page's discussion page. --FFN 16:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, didn't know! BenHur 16:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Close to the top of Talk:Main Page, it says, "Please use this talk page for discussion about the Main Page." Please read pages before you edit them. JW 16:31, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
Sorry again.

Well, I suppose he's going to have to hate you even longer.

Bonescrusher states on his userpage that he's FIELDMAN 298 (and felt the need to update his old userpage). He is also saying he is the (as of yet unblocked) user St.Hound. This is the dink that keeps vandalizing your creator/artist page on the wiki, but says he'll stop now. But he still feels the need to say he hates you and everyone you've ever loved.--RosicrucianTalk 14:49, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Garbage In, Garbage Out

Seriously, it looks to me as if there's nothing left of Wreck-Gar but his upper chest and shoulders, and even that is half-buried in the river-bottom mud. I take it you disagree.--Apcog 04:24, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Definitely looks like he's buried, because he actually pulls his right shoulder out of the ocean floor during the sequence. --Detour 04:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
If he was missing most of himself, they'd, y'know, show some wiring down there. Also, not show him buried! --ItsWalky 04:55, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
Looking at it again, I guess I can see how the rest of his body could be there, but at the angle he was lying and the way his arm stubs were shown, I just got the impression that what we saw of him was practically all there was left. If there was more of his body intact, I'd have expected it to be more visible. Then again, I'm nitpicking the realism of a half-buried giant, transforming, cartoon robot.--Apcog 18:58, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
On this, I agree with Willis - he's mostly intact, just more than half-buried in the silt - SanityOrMadness 19:15, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

Rhinox555 gettin' cranky

If you have a moment to check out Talk:Waspinator, it's possible that User:Rhinox555 has reached the point where he needs a time-out. JW 14:15, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Nobody can wait for a year

Please give me another chance, I felt like leaving the funny business to you guys. This is the logged out Black Rhino Ranger speaking. 82.17.140.55 06:08, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Red

I must've not reverted right. It's a photo caption, since Red isn't in the picture I don't see the point of mentioning him in the caption. --Detour 22:45, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

I do. I see a point. Hell, I wrote the damn thing. --ItsWalky 22:48, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

huh

You know, I've been here for a whiel, and I've been reading shortpacked for a while...and I only realised who you were half an hour ago. Mad, huh? Anyway, since I like dolling out praise for no real reason, I'm a fan f your comics, and hope you keep up the excellent work. And yes, Ani Grimlock's tail is too short User:GWolfv2

I think you should check this out for a minute,i only mention how i dont like the fact that only official stuff is allowed on this wiki, which is just an opinion right? I respect the rule despite my hate for it. I'm not even doing as much as asking for the rule to change yet take one look at Mcfeely's reaction. -- Decepticon Rhinox 22:35, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

A rational discussion about deletions?

I would like to know why the MTMTE Spinister image was deleted.Drmick 16:11, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

We already have a profile image for Spinister. We don't need two, and there was nothing trivia-y about it, despite its dubious placement. We do not upload every single image available for every character. --ItsWalky 17:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
But it would have been polite to give a reason for the deletion or to inform the uploader, no? Drmick 10:48, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
You should read edit comments more, then. I'm not going to leave a message on the userpage of the uploader of every image I delete, just in case they don't see the notes we leave elsewhere. --ItsWalky 14:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
It is not explicitly stated on the image policy that MTMTE art should be avoided. I can understand that it should for legal reasons, but it would be better put down as official. In fact, I asked the question (about cataloging all art) in the community portal but was ignored.
If there was no legal barrier, you could argue that the MTMTE art should be used in preference as the boxart and Universe profiles exist quite readily at Botch and NTFA.
Regardless, your assertion that I should read edit comments more often is unfair and impolite. More so, if you consider I did ask (in advance) on the community portal. If I were to say to you, "Maybe you should read the community portal more often", and then undo a sizeable amount of work that you did, what type of emotion would that cause within you? Drmick 10:05, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
When I notice one of my edits was reverted, the first thing I do is check the talk page and the history page to see if a reason for the reversion was given.
And Drmick, quite aside how legally dodgy it would be to post basically every image from MtMtE here as character pics (for many of them it's the only character art that exists, so we've got not choice...) a lot of the MtMtE art was, if you're pardon my french, really shitty. Just because it was hyper-detailed and well-colored does not mean it was good to start with. The Springer pic was someone drawing his toy, with no attempt to resemble the cartoon character model at all. Springer doesn't look like that. Anywhere. Ever. In any appearance. At all. Not even in the Dreamwave comics. Pat Lee used the Studio Ox model- which (while I think the Ox models are all ugly as sin) at least attempts to split the difference between the character model and toy. I guess what I'm saying is... even if it wasn't from a source we try to avoid unless there's a compelling reason to draw from it, this was a bad piece of art anyway. We draw our character art from a wide variety of sources, in part, because the quality in any single source often isn't all that flattering. We'd like to choose the best of what's available, not just the most ubiquitous.
(That's assuming we're actually discussing this piece of Springer's art- and that it's not serving as a badly-drawn "symbol" for dissatisfaction about other edit revisions. I haven't been paying much attention to the Recent Changes page, so I have no idea if that's the case, I just thought I'd throw it out so I'd sound preternaturally wise if it were.) -Derik 11:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
The Springer and Spinister images are the reasons for my complaint, yes. But at least you, sir, have taken the time to explain the reasons, which is what i am asking for. And besides, using the reasons you have just given, could those reasons AND the MTMTE image not be included in the article? Something along the lines of: "Here is Springer's MTMTE art, it's shit, DW were lazy, greedy hoo-ers". Drmick 11:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
As I just said above, we do not include every piece of art just because it exists.
Your complaints here seem to have nothing to do with your thread in the community portal, as far as I can decipher. You're asking about the hierarchy of image importance.... which is absolutely moot when Spinister already has a profile image and you stick a second one in the trivia section for no reason or explanation. I'm sorry, sometimes when we contribute things, they get removed. It happens to me, too. Get over it. --ItsWalky 13:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments and quick question

I really, really don't see why Walky seems to be getting the same level of hatred as a Nazi rally, it seems stupid, and if you want to complain, do it in a calm, civilized manner.

Now that I've finished my own personal crusade against internet idiocy, do you think an article on the Rifftrax (One of the latest endeavors by the MST3K folks.) made for the Transformers (2007) movie would be appropriate?

Sample: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pDgKMjEwfQ

Cheers. SteamFan42 07:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't speak for Walky, but Wiki policy is that we only deal with official TF stuff and well known/historic fandom stuff. I don't believe Rifftrax commentary falls into either category. From what I recall, they went pretty hard at the 2007 movie for being a Michael Bay movie, didn't they? --FFN 08:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Kinder then the critics, in some ways, but yeah, it's not official nor fandom. It is funny though, so I though I'd ask.SteamFan42 04:24, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Please delete

Image:Mix Scrapper Blitzwing Lugnut.jpg‎

Image:Those are decepticons, the scum of the Universe.jpg‎

Image:Nanosec, I like that name.jpg

Please delete these images

Block Town

Long as you're on a roll tonight...--Apcog 01:41, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Danke.--Apcog 03:38, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

I believe what we usually block them under is "inserting nonsense."

While I doubt that English is this guy's first language, even if you try to parse what he's typing up it makes no goddamned sense.--RosicrucianTalk 17:39, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

It reminds me of the weird spam email or VERY dodgy internet sites that load your system full of malware and viruses, where the text is just random english words. --FFN 18:10, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Main Page

Hey man. I just wanted to make sure you got to see this. —Scott (talk) 23:49, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Again with M Sipher's random flaming

If i would have done anything like This here, i would be Permanently banned,yet you let M Sipher and McFeely get away with everything they please? That's not right,as an administrator you should treat all members equally. -- Decepticon Rhinox 22:31, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Productive members get a bit more consideration. Members that have been here a good long while that people know pretty well likewise get the benefit of the doubt on a lot of things. That isn't inequality really, that's the fact that they've bellied up to the bar and shown folks they're trustworthy individuals who do good work for the wiki. Newer folks with less of a track record get less leeway. Again, not favoritism so much as the fact that some folks have already paid their dues. Yes, you would be permablocked if you acted like an asshat. You also have next to nothing under your belt in the way of contributions save for arguments about policy here.--RosicrucianTalk 22:36, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
while I might agree that Sipher was being rude... I don't think it takes a rocket scientist to think that when your edit is reverted "Gee, maybe the 'in a move of utter stupidity' line should be cut back." Simply putting it bad with a declaration that you're gonna keep doing so until the problem is explained to you is... really jerky.
While we don't require dryly neutral language on this wiki- we do prefer not to come off like Comic Book Guy from the Simpsons. And castigating an entire company's stupidity for a production mistake on the instructions ...is really fucking petty.
Yeah, he was rude. And you were snotty and self-righteous. Balance has been achieved. -Derik 01:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I was not being snotty and self righteous. I was contributing,unlike M Sipher who does nothing on this wiki BUT spamming,flaming and deleting for no reason. If this wiki is merely about being popular then it's not really a transformers wiki at all and should be reported to wikia.com,that's all i'm saying. And if something is wrong with the format of a section,you edit it,you don't just Undo. -- Decepticon Rhinox 04:09, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Over the last few days I have poured over badly-written message board posts in order to document an Alternate Reality game associated with the movie, a thing so tiny, and tucked into such a corner that no one even realized it, or the two characters unique to it, existed. And in a month or two the forum it took place on will probably cease to exist- the board for the Battle for the Allspark game got wiped sometime in the last month.
Your bruised ego aside, allow me to assure you, this is a Transformers Wikia.
What have you contributed recently? -Derik 08:50, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

If you think all Sipher does is flame... well, you're showing how briefly you've been on this wiki.--RosicrucianTalk 04:13, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

And if something is wrong with the format of a section,you edit it,you don't just Undo. And that's what Sipher did with your attempted addition. How about that.--Apcog 05:30, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
The second time. I think he was hoping DR'd get the hint and do it himself. (I happen to agree with DR, a more helpful memo would have been nice... but meh.)
Here's a correlary; "If something was wrong with your addition and it got reverted, you don't just redo." If you're going to put it back, you should try making some changes to it. Even if they're not the right changes, it at least demonstrates a willingness to work with other users. (I also think this is making a mountain out of a molehill.) -Derik 06:24, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I didn't undo the first one. I edited the redo. To remove the douchery. --M Sipher 06:29, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
You who undid the first one? I assumed that was what DR was upset about. ...all this was just because you called him a douchebag? You call me a douchebag like, three times daily. What a twat. -Derik 06:32, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
It was GWolf who did the undo. —Interrobang 06:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Did the dude just say that we should be reported to Wikia? --FFN 07:55, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


Deceptitran bot-flag?

Hey Walky, I've been poking at a 'bot to replace diagnostic drone (which Monaco broke.) McFeely okayed doing some stress-testing on it (needed an admin's permission since we forbid multiple accounts.) At the moment it can only fix in-page links and storylinks (not links inside, say, spnav templates,) but those do represent about 95% of what we want a 'bot to do, and it seems to have survived stress-testing reasonably well, so I'm ready to consider it 'good for use' at this point.

There were a bunch of moves on the IDW movie comics today. They created like 50-60 double-redirects (since those issues had moved a couple times,) and I used the 'bot to move the doubles as well as the single-redirects-- since the article titles involved were all very generic, and it seemed like there was a reasonable chance that a real article might end up living in the old namespace.

Basically- that's a lot of edits, and it spammed the recentChanges page unpleasantly. Since the 'bot appears to be functional- can I get a bot-flag for him? All of this may be moot when we move to the new server (where DiagnosticDrone should work,) but that's a month off... and we're still moving articles and snarling links now, so I think it's worthwhile. Besides, Steve isn't around much.

Uh- anyway... formal request to declare the 'bot "live," and get a bot-flag so its edits aren't making RecentChanges unreadable. -Derik 05:11, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I fully second that request, on the grounds that...uh...it makes checking the recentchanges difficult. -- SFH 05:20, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, sorry about that. I've been trying to hold off the large batches of changes for exactly that reason- but the movie prequel stuff seemed worth just doing now because the generic names presented (I felt) such a possibility for creating a (I thought) godless sort of snarl. -Derik 05:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Link templates

You seem to be the go-to admin here, so I figured I ought to talk to you about this before getting started. At Bulbapedia, the Pokémon wiki (yes, OK, you may laugh at me for editing Bulbapedia. Done? Good.), we use link templates to avoid linking to redirects or disambiguation pages, and also so we don't have to type out [[Bulbasaur (Pokémon)|Bulbasaur]] every time we want to link to a Pokémon. I suck at summarizing, so I'll just direct you to this page for more information.

Anyway, when I started work on Teletraan 1, I realized that you could really benefit from some link templates as well, for linking to Transformers from different continuities. You could type in {{g1|Starscream}} or {{mo|Starscream}} instead of [[Starscream (G1)|Starscream]] or [[Starscream (Movie)|Starscream]] when linking to different incarnation of Starscream, for example. It would make editing a bit easier, and reduce the amount of code you have on each page.

I could easily make all these link templates myself, but I wanted to check with you first, to make sure I wouldn't get in trouble for it. I have no idea why I would, but one can never be too careful. So, what do you think? --Martonimos 01:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Suggest it on the Community Portal, and we'll see how the peeps feel! It sounds like a great idea, but I want to see how others think first. Thanks! --ItsWalky 02:44, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I'd like a little clarification as to how they WORK. We have quite a lot of parenthetical disambiguations... --M Sipher 03:23, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
I think the logic is that you link to {{G1|Starscream}} instead of [[Starscream (G1)]], and the link template automatically matches the term you supply with a page-- in this case "Starscream (G1)." (The logic being that if the page you're linking to ever changes- you can just change the link in the TEMPLATE, once.)
The advantage is kinda lost on me though. It's just the same disambigs reversed. IF there's ever another Starscream added in G1-- and Autobot say... what- {{g1|starscream (Autobot)}}?
It's not like we index characters on a group pages- and then sometimes move them to individual pages or something. And of course while I'm assuming the proposed template would let us use a second 'term' to override how the link renders- what do we do when we want to get just a pagename, not a link at all? (we sometimes need this for our templates.)
There's like 3 guys named Blackout in Energon alone, aren't there? We have so much disambiguation- and often multiple levels of it- that this feels like it'd make things MORE complicated, not less. (Unless I'm missing something.)
That's as far as character go. You know what it'd be pretty awesome for? Comics and cartoon episodes. {{g1|dreamwave}} takes you to the Dreamwave landing page. {{g1|dreamwave|10}} takes you to issue #10. I'm really intrigued by the potential to-- god-- stick in TEMPLATES a LOT of what we're doing in disambig pages. Wouldn't it be GREAT not to have to remember "Transformers (2007)" and "Revenge of the Fallen"-- two COMPLETELY inconsistent naming schemas that we're stuck with because thats their NAMES- and instead link to- {{movie|1}} or {{movie|2}}? How about {{movie|2|comics}}? God- the PAGE NAMES could remain as obnoxiously illogical as they want to be- but linkign to them would be a breeze! And if we move them we jsut change the link in the template! It's like what we have in epnav- sort of-- if the main page for the Armada cartoonchanges we don't have to update 52 episode pages-- the link itself is in the template.
One real advantage- unlike redirects? You'd be able to link to anchors, and they'd WORK.
(I've been fooling around with something liek this involving episodes... I think maybe I should give it some more attention.) -Derik 03:50, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
How they work is simple enough. It's a template, obviously, and the coding would look something like this:
[[{{{1}}} (G1)|{{{1}}}]]
For this example, I'm using G1. You'd type in {{g1|Name}}, and it would come out as [[Name (G1)|Name]]. But more logically, the template would look more like this:
[[{{{1}}} (G1)|{{{2|{{{1}}}}}}]]
At least, I think that's right... I can't check, since Bulbapedia is down right now. But if I am, that coding should allow you to include a second input field that would let you change the way the link appeared; you could write {{an|Sentinel Prime|some jerk}} and get [[Sentinel Prime (Animated)|some jerk]].
Derik, your comments got me thinking. The three Blackouts you mentioned are on three different pages: Blackout (Armada), Blackout (Terrorcon), and Blackout (Combiner). Making LTs for all those would be kind of ridiculous (although by no means impossible, or even difficult; we'd just have to think up good abbreviations for all of them), so I came up with another solution: an all-purpose link template, possibly titled {{link}} or something. It would look like this:
[[{{{1}}} ({{{2}}})|{{{3|{{{1}}}}}}]]
So then we have three data fields. You would type in {{link|Optimus Prime|G1}}, and get [[Optimus Prime (G1)|Optimus Prime]], or maybe {{link|Bumblebee|G1|stupid kid}} and get [[Bumblebee (G1)|stupid kid]]. This way, you could link to anything, like Create-A-Bot (Autobot) or Dinobots (Mini-Cons) without having to come up with a separate LT for each different parenthetical phrase. The disadvantage to this is that it's longer, obviously, but it's more versatile and you wouldn't have to remember hundreds of two-word abbreviations.
As far as comics, movies, and such go, if I knew more about the way the page titles were structured, then it'd be entirely possible. I might have to get a few of the Bulbapedia admins to help me figure everything out, as I'm really only copying their ideas, but I think it could happen.
So, I guess I'll take this to the Community Portal. If you guys have any more questions, comments, or complaints, you can find me there. --Martonimos 08:09, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Chat Room

Yes I am aware of the little thingy that You can put on User Pages stating that this wiki is not a chat room ,and I am also fully aware of websites such as Seibertron.com ,and the like ,but I would like to suggest a chat forum for this Wiki. If You could do that ,it would be great. If not ,thats alright ,Thanks!Imnotflorodery 16:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Cropping Images

Please crop the image on My user page! Or at least show me how!

No. --ItsWalky 23:44, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

Could have said it politely.Imnotflorodery 00:02, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Delete this please

Meltdownexperiments

This image is fuzzy. Mr. Serious 22:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

We don't need to delete it, we can just upload a new image over it. That way we don't have to remove it and reinsert it from pages, and so forth. Someone with the DVD set can do this easy as you like. - Chris McFeely 22:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
It may add comic value to know Walky was the original uploader of said fuzzy image. -Derik 22:18, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Well they don't release the DVD in Malaysia and it's way to expensive to buy in England (if it is in England). Mr. Serious 22:09, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Questions on the move

Hi, please can you have a look at Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal/Leaving#Questions on the move. Thanks -- sannse@fandom (talk) 19:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

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