Talk:Transformers: Prime Directive

Wasn't this also the name of the first Dreamwave G1 mini-series?--UndeadScottsman 03:49, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Without the plural, it is. --ItsWalky 04:34, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Wans't it also an early name of the movie script? -Derik 06:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Indeed. --ItsWalky 06:50, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

should this be added to trivia?-Chipmonk3288

"Prime Directives" or "Prime Directive"?

Compare: "Prime Directive" (singular) vs. "Prime Directives" (plural). The latter results in a lot of Wiki pages. The former gives us solicitations for the IDW Prequel mini. So unless someone objects a change, I'd propose renaming the article about the mini, as well as the articles about the individual issues, from "Prime Directives" into "Prime Directive (IDW Prequel)". Which would then require renaming everything related to the first Dreamwave G1 mini to "Prime Directive (Dreamwave Generation One)". And renaming all the myriard links in other articles. Opinions and suggestions for alternative titles are welcome.--Nevermore 20:33, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

"Prime Directive"?

Why are we calling the series "Prime Directive" when it's nowhere to be found in the issues? The cover calls it Transformers: Official Movie Prequel, while the inside calls it Transformers: Movie Prequel. —Interrobang 19:46, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

And why did you remove the trivia bit that explains where the title originates from, regardless of how the article is named?--Nevermore 10:07, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

You... might want to read the first sentence of the article. —Interrobang 19:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Also, thanks to you, we currently have:

• An article named Movie Prequel, which is the main page for the four-issue mini-series
• Transformers Movie Prequel, which currently redirects to Interlude.

If anything, either "Movie Prequel" or "Transformers Movie Prequel" should be a disambiguation page, the other one should be a redirect, and the miniseries should have a (miniseries) suffix or somesuch.--Nevermore 10:22, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

"Transformers Movie Prequel" should really be a disambiguation page, since 3 separate stories were published with that exact name. All of those books were retroactively assigned distinct and unique titles, which for practicality's sake should be the page names. Which... I thought they were, until a day or two ago. -- Repowers 13:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm also sure I created a disambiguation page at either "Movie Prequel" or "Transformers Movie Prequel" a few weeks ago.--Nevermore 18:34, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, for the love of Cheese, just move it back. --ItsWalky 19:02, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The boss has spoken, and it shall be done.--Nevermore 19:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Does nobody get the concept that "Prime Directive" IS NOWHERE IN THE FINISHED PRODUCT? It's "Movie Prequel", and was only called "Prime Directive" in some fucking solicitations. Moving back, as there wasn't an ounce of actual reasoning in it. —Interrobang 19:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

"Prime Directive" was also nowhere in the finished product of the first Dreamwave mini. It was only slapped onto the back cover of the trade as an afterthought. Thus, we should also move that to "Generation One (Dreamewave) volume 1".

And thinking about it, "Interlude" and "Planetfall" were also after-the-fact names put into the Movie Prequel Special reprint of those stories. The original releases were simply called "Transformers Movie Prequel".--Nevermore 19:21, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

And those examples have what relevance to something that was only acquired from solicitations and not from official product? (Ignoring this, the issues do have titles; it's "Transformers: Movie Prequel Issue Number (blank)", as spelled out on the first page of each issue.) —Interrobang 19:30, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

That still doesn't explain why "Movie Prequel" should be the new location of the mini-series overview article rather than a disambiguation page, and why "Transformers Movie Prequel" should redirect to "Interlude" instead.

And, for that matter, there is no product officially referred to as Prime Directive issue 1 anywhere on the cover or in the masthead either.--Nevermore 19:39, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Then make it a disambiguation page. And "Transformers Movie Prequel" redirects to "Interlude" because you made it as such. It should point to the disambiguation page when all this is said and done. I was planning on doing that eventually but got sidetracked and forgot.

And I still don't see the relevance of your examples. We have no better name for the first issue of Prime Directive (I don't know; I don't have those issues), therefore, we should keep "Transformers: Movie Prequel Issue Number One" (as spelled out on the first page, making it the closest thing to a title it has) at a title gleaned from solicitations and nowhere on an official, finished product? —Interrobang 20:09, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

The solicitations are official. They're the lists of upcoming stuff that IDW sends to retailers every month. They are also published on IDW's website. Therefore, they are just as official as anything Hasbro puts up on their website. --FortMax 20:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, and Injector still isn't Aquasting. What takes priority is the actual, finished product (and, no, this doesn't exclude renames by later product), which contains no trace of "Prime Directive", as I've said multiple times. —Interrobang 20:55, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Solicitations are official- but they're also subject to change. I'm not saying that we shouldn't use the solicitation title in the absence of a more official one- but I think it's worth taking a nice long look at the thing and really weighing- "Do we want to file these stories under a name none of the comics or trades had, or will have, in any incarnation?" -Derik 21:29, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

Just so we're totally clear here, and correct me if this is wrong: the title Prime Directive wasn't actually added to the final trade paperback? -- Repowers 02:39, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Since nobody used that as an argument and it's not mentioned in the article at all, I'm going to go with "no". —Interrobang 18:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Well, let's not assume; let's get it from someone who knows. It's a fair bet that a lot of us don't actually have the trades, since -- fanatics that we all are -- we got the individual issues instead.

Also, if it's verified... since Interlude and Planetfall do have new titles, maybe it'd make sense to have this page at Movie Prequel (IDW) or (Mini-series), and have plain old unparenthetical Movie Prequel be the disambig? -- Repowers 19:06, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I've already made Movie Prequel a disambig page. If moved, this page should be "(miniseries)", since the Target issues were made by IDW, too. —Interrobang 19:25, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I get all the TPBs. The thing is consistently called "Transformers: Movie Prequel" throughout. "Prime Directive" appears nowhere. Chip 02:28, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

No. Not "Prime Directive".

Look, we need to resolve this one way or the other. I appreciate that the thing was solicited as "Prime Directive", but this appears nowhere in the finished comics or TPB. I think that tells us all we need to know about the final intent. Is there still any disagreement with moving everything permanently to "Transformers: Movie Prequel"? Chip 02:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Okay, so WTF?

Currently issues 1 and 2 are located under Prime Directive (IDW) issue 1 and Prime Directive (IDW) issue 2, respectively, whereas issues 3 and 4 are located under Movie Prequel Issue Number Three and Movie Prequel Issue Number Four, respectively. I doubt this is the way it's supposed to be.--Nevermore 23:09, 5 September 2008 (UTC)

And now, instead of fixing the article naming inconsistency, the redirects from the mini's main page have been terminated. Awesome.--Nevermore 21:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

This is ridiculous. If nobody cares enough to give a compelling reason for these articles to remain under this "Prime Directive" label within 24 hours from now, I'm moving the whole kit and kaboodle to Movie Prequel. I recommend that any further movement after that point, without a conclusive discussion, be grounds for auto-banning. Chip 21:43, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I want it to remain at Prime Directive for purely practical reasons; "movie prequel" isn't very informative since we're getting a second "movie prequel" set in the same continuity. Not to mention the Target prequels set in the same continuity. (If anything, "Movie Prequel" should be an umbrella covering this mini and the target issues together.)

In order to avoid a mind-bogglingly generic (and mid-level confusing) title, I think we should instead go with the solicitation title. -Derik 21:53, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure why "Move Prequel (miniseries)" (Movie Prequel is a disambiguation page) is that difficult to comprehend, nor how it would confuse readers. It may be generic, but it's the fucking name in everything other than some fucking solicitations. —Interrobang 22:01, 7 September 2008 (UTC)