in the credits there is only one A in Teletran 1 should that be reflected when talking about Animated Teletran 1?Gspro15198 16:50, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes. --ItsWalky 16:52, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Long Synopsis

I'm thinking enthusiasm has made the synopsis way longer than it needs to be. Opinions? JW 15:12, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Looks fine. It is three episodes, after all. —Interrobang 16:43, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
For comparison, the synopsis for MTMTE, part 1, is 502 words. The synopsis for T&RO, part 1, is 795 words. Alternately, the wordcount for the synopsis of TFTM is 1,151 words. The count for T&RO parts 1-3 together is 2,094 words. I think T&RO is great, but I don't think it inherently needs this many words to synopsize. JW 17:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Dudes, what it needs is screen captures to space out the text. Which reminds me, I need to rewrite my entire recap for Beast Wars Part 1. I was soooo into it I went way, way, way overboard compared to this. --FFN 17:32, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
"More Than Meets the Eye, Part 3" gets 1,006 words. Obviously, the size is variable, fitting to the needs of the plot. If you see a part that can be summarized, then go ahead and do it, but I don't the need to make it a priority. —Interrobang 17:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
Oh, I don't think it's a huge priority, either. I just wanted to make sure that if I edit it for length, a few months down the road, there won't be a bigass hue and cry. JW 17:58, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm going to screen cap the episode now, if nobody minds. Of course, I have to watch through this episode again to get the screencaps. --FFN 18:11, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
I think Interrobang has a point: it is three episodes. Splitting it up would make it much shorter, but do we want to do that? -- SFH 19:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Megatron's hand

I'm pretty sure Sumdac's Megatron hand-chair was intended to be the hand we see removed. Why else would the camera linger on it so long after it's blown off? That's prime "You'll be seeing this later" cinematic language. --ItsWalky 04:04, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, considering the target age group of the show, I suppose it's not asking too much for viewers to believe the hand could've come off during the battle above Earth and somehow stayed with Megatron all the way down to his landing in Paw Paw...--Apcog 04:20, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I think they made a minor error here, the chance of the hand landing right next to him wen he falls off the ark is unlikely. besides, what kid would ever even depict WHAT hand got blown up, and is used as a chair now? on another note, does anyone notice that megatron's head is already in his earth mode's form?--Grand-majin 19:16, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
It isn't, really. The outer helmet area is gone, simply revealing some stuff that was underneath it, or so it appeared to me.--Apcog 20:03, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
Maybe Sumdac reapers it?--IguanaNik


Getting nitpicky here, but I learned the rule of ellipsis punctuation as three dots with no surrounding spaces if it was in the middle of a sentence, unless it represented portion of text specifically omitted, as opposed to a dramatic pause. I'll go along with trimming four dots down to three, but why insert spaces when I took the trouble to remove them some time ago?--Apcog 22:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

From the Dead

I wanted to make a finer point, but it's probably just my own interpretation. After watching the episode again it appears to me that Sari's key is the catalyst, but it's really the All Spark that revives Prime. Sari's key isn't even in Prime when he wakes, and it is a bolt of energy from the All Spark that brings back his spark. If the All Spark hadn't been in the vicinity, it seems to me that Prime wouldn't be alive.

But what about Prowl and Bumblebee? Well, we know that Prowl was dying, but not yet dead when he was "cured". And no one really knows Bumblebee's condition when Sari uses the key on him, but it isn't intimated clearly that he was dead.

Just my thoughts, and I'd like to change the synopsis to reflect that theory, but not if it will cause a ruckus.


All of the other mutli-part episodes are split into separate articles, so why shouldn't this one be? I know that all three of them were broadcasted at once, but when they start rolling re-runs these will be aired separately. Omegalink.

Nanobots=Swarm Reference?

The nanobots in this episode are, like all of the Sumdac robots, derived from Transformer tech/biology as they were reverse-engineered from Megatron. They are also shown only consuming inorganic stuff, cars and trucks and stuff. Pretty much like the Swarm. Is this connection too tenuous to mention? 01:13, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Definitely, just because they behave like nanites doesn't mean its a reference. Also you don't see Sumdac nanobots attacking transformers so as to eat their soul. There isn't any distinguishing "features" that make them any different from any other sci-fi incarnation of nanites. (Undecided) 01:19, 5 May 2008 (UTC)


I added this yesterday but someone seems to have deleted it. In part one, when megatron is blown up by starscream and the hull is breached, Teletran 1 says warning: hull breached. Sealing patches Alpha, Omega, and Axalon. As I said I added this as a reference yesterday and someone deleted it. Can we add it back?

No, because Teletran 1 said "Epsilon," not "Axalon." --ItsWalky 14:16, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

Quote Section

The quote section on this page -- and on a LOT of the pages seems pointlessly long and filled with stuff that's not particularly snappy or worth hi-lighting by quoting it directly... especially when the quotes require so much additional explanatory text. Would it be all right to start trimming down the quotes sections, knocking them back to two or three really snappy, memorable quotes? Any additional stuff could be pushed down to little descriptions in the trivia sections.

For example, as nice as it might have been in the episode, THIS doesn't really work when quoted here:

"Ratchet, think fast!"
"Oh crud."
--Optimus Prime and Ratchet when the game of keep-away starts.

Trimming back all the overlong quote sections might make the episode pages easier to read too.Jhiaxus 15:26, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

YES FOR LOVE OF GOD YES. I dunno how many times I've thought/said this. A heavy-handed purge is required. -- Repowers 03:00, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
Agreed, but seeing the section as it is now, it feels a little TOO short. Maybe a half-dozen quotes, tops, would be good, nothing too extensive or requiring much in the way of "stage directions".--Apcog 14:24, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
Maybe the original was a bit excessive, but so is the slimdown. It's not like we need to rewrite the episode, but this is a bit too little, eh? Galvanisation 10:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
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