Hmm, that's odd. The version of the DVD I have has the scrolling text, the "Optimus Prime will return" voiceover, AND the part where Spike lets an "oh shit" slip.

To split hairs, it's actually "ah shit", not "oh shit", but whatever. Gringo300 (talk) 00:10, March 24, 2013 (UTC)


Did he die or what? I remember hearing that the original script EXPLICITLY says that he died when Unicron crushed the building he was in, but the actual finished movie is considerably more vague about this... -hx 13:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

According to the TFTM script:


Unicron enters shot and grasps at Cybertron with a hideous claw...


Shockwave talks into a communications device, as alarms sound and troopers run everywhere.

SHOCKWAVE: Decepticons...we're under attack...Scramble -

Then his voice is cut off as...


Unicron's hand reaches towards the window, squeezes, and the walls crash in.


Unicron tears off the tower and crushes it as...


streak out of Cybertron and begin firing on the enormous planet.

Here, we see the true scale of Unicron. The fighters are the size of bees as they attack.

-- While Shockwave's character model sometimes appeared in the third season (once in grey, once in Constructicon Green), I'm not sure that a properly-colored Shockwave ever showed up post-movie - not that that would necessarily mean anything in light of Evil Zombie Brawn And Huffer from Carnage In C Minor. --Monzo 18:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

  • That's pretty much what I figured. Shockwave kindasorta dies, and doesn't show up properly ever again, so you could argue that he's dead. -hx 19:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

He doesn't even kindasorta die in the final cut of the movie. He just has that one shot then we never see him again. No tower-crushy, no nothing. So it can really be argued either way. M "I'd Hesitate To Make A Call Either WAy" Sipher

Could those season 3 episodes Five Faces of Darkness, Part 3 and Five Faces of Darkness, Part 4 animation errors be his clones?.

German Dub

Does anyone know who spoke all the roles in the german dubbing? i can't find that info anywhere on the net, and neither on the german dvd :(

You should not look for the cast of the dvd version because, first the dub is tital crap, second the voiceactors are unknown, there are no information which studio did the dub nor who directed the dub. You can find the dublist here:


Shouldn't this article be called "The Transformers: The Movie"? That is the film's full title, isn't it? --KilMichaelMcC 06:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Here's a question.

Do we really need the (1986) at the end of this? It's not like "Transformers: The Movie" redirects to a disambiguation page with this and the '07 movie, or that the '07 movie is titled something different. It just seems...redundant, don't you think? There's only 'one' TFTM, and this is it. That, and I highly doubt there's gonna be another "Transformers: The Movie" within the next five or even ten years--when this Wiki would, realistically, still be operating. So yeah. Shouldn't we can that?

Transformers: The Movie (comic) exists. As will The Transformers: The Animated Movie (comic) for the current adaptation when someone gets around to it. We do need to have a disambiguation system for them though. --ItsWalky 02:37, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the above, but am inclined to say this article still doesn't need a paranthetical in its title, it being far more prominant than the other Transformers: The Movies. Of course, the last time I moved an article that has disambiguation to the non-parenthetical location I got a bunch of people saying "WTF?" even though that's what Help:Disambiguation has said to do since I wrote it back at the dawn of time. (See Talk:Constructicon.) --Steve-o 06:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Walky's point: Then I don't really see the relevance of the year. On top of that, all of those have different titles; there's no real conflict. It's kinda the same principle as Kremzeek and Kremzeek!. Just note that the reader may be looking for whatever at the top. Interrobang 09:46, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Worth Noting...somewhere

I found my old VHS version of the movie, and it refers to the Decepticons reformatted by Unicron as the "Unicrons." Just wanted to point that out. -- Hunter-113 18:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Though officially publishedd, the Aaustralian character bios are generally ignored because-- Bwuh?
Hasbro/Dreamworks recently put out some bios of the movie characters-- describing half the cast in terms of their cartoon versions, including events that did not occur in the movie. At some point you have to say "no, there's no point in trying to integrate that."
I think poorly-conceived DVD extras (or VHS extras as the case may be) since they really don't stand on their own but only reflect the producer's (often limited) understanding of the source material are one of those ignored-unless-useful things. (It's also why we don't cover the Dinobots seldom-seen combiner mode. *shudder*) -Derik 19:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
The Dinobots'... what? -Rotty 20:07, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I've heard of that combiner, my friend said it had no head. Anyways, I got that info off the synopsis from the back of the VHS Case. -- Hunter-113 20:52, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, this has nothing to do with "Australian character bios" Deirk. The "Unicrons" thing comes from the back of the Rhino VHS case. --KilMichaelMcC 21:59, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
I believe it was an Australian video release which tried to use its weight to assert that yes, Skywarp is definitely Cyclonus. Or maybe Bombshell. I don't remember which. But whichever way, it was totally inappropriate. --Steve-o 02:50, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
No, seriously... Dinobots'... what?--MCRG 03:11, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
I don't recall which country, or whether it was TF:TM or the cartoon, but some non-US DVD release included a comic book in which the Dinobots combined. --KilMichaelMcC 03:35, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Metrodome's Season 3 DVD's, wasn't it? -Derik 05:02, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
You got to be kidding. That's certainly worth a mention, er, somewhere. On the Dinobots page. Trivia tab. With a scan.--MCRG 06:32, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
But ti was the most vapid, stupidest, mis-concieved-idea-of-cool addition to the canon ever! -Derik 10:03, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Ugh, seriously. Kindly note that for all I did with Metrodome, I had nothing to do with that!! - Chris McFeely 10:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Did the story ever end? I thought it was a deliberate cliffhanger- which really reinforces how the entire concept was "wouldn't it be cool if?" and there was no story to tell. -Derik 10:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, it was a two-parter. Part 1 was in Season 2, Part 2, then part 2 was in Season 3/4. Basically, everyone runs like crap from "The Beast," and then Prime tricks it into falling off a cliff. Sigh. - Chris McFeely 10:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Japanese name

What is it exactly? --FortMax 18:47, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

Not "Matrix Forever". --Steve-o 19:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
I am guessing some translation of "The Transformers: The Movie." --ItsWalky 19:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
Transliteration, actually. トランスフォーマー ザ・ムービー, which comes out to "Toransufōmā za Mūbī". Interrobang 19:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


Derik: No, the screen is definitely cut off the top for the "widescreen." Look at the scene where you see through Perceptor's micro-scope at the approaching Decepticons. The bars at the top of his vision display the difference perfectly. You can count the bars to see the difference between them. Oddly enough, your picture certainly looks stretched... -- 03:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Caption Quotes

The pic of Megatron with a lightsaber has a Jedi quote instead of a New Hope quote. Do we care? JW 22:17, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

I care! --ItsWalky 23:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
"An elegant weapon, for a more civilized age". That's from A New Hope. Good enough? -- SFH 23:13, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

[sigh] Now the pic of the Junkions dancing has a Jedi quote instead of a New Hope quote . . . JW 13:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Poster Caption

Hm,, I'm thinking about changing the caption on the poster at the top to "If your favorite Transformers character isn't on this poster, it's best to start grieving now." The current caption is just a bit misleading, since none of the characters on the poster died (as they were all brand new toys (except for the ones who didn't get toys)). JW 01:31, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

That's not quite true. Unicron died. And so did Ultra Magnus, but he got better. -- Dark T Zeratul 01:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
I'm not sure how the suggested new caption is any less misleading. My favorite Transformers characters are Jazz and Bumblebee! Also, Hound. Probably Nightbeat. I think I'm okay. --ItsWalky 02:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Wanted: A caption for that poster pic that both A) points out that all the characters on the poster are brand new and never-been-seen-before (since I think that's an important bit of info), and also B) preserves the current caption's comment on how "all your favorite characters" die. Suggestions? JW 03:15, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

"Who the hell are those guys and where's Prime?" Or stick with the current, honestly. - Some Guy 22 March 2008


Why is there a colon in the page title? There's no colon in the movie title. --M Sipher 00:08, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Because "The Movie" is a subtitle. —Interrobang 13:20, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

Blitzwing animation error

In the battle for Autobot City, when Prime drives up behind the Decepticons, Blitzwing turns his head and its color changes to purple for a split second. However, when he turns it back its tan again. Just thought we should add this under animation errors.-Proconix 20:37, 24 May 2008 (UTC)Proconix

more animation errors

Watched the Movie again today and this is what I found. In the scene where Blaster ejects his tapes, He first ejects what looks like Eject. He stays blue up until he gets to the edge of the screen. He then turns black like Rewind. Then Blaster ejects a another blue cassette, which after about a second, turns black. This one gets through half his transformation colored black, then turns blue for a split second then turns black again. And later when the cassettes are fighting each other, Eject runs in from the left and jumps over Perceptor. And then he runs in from the left again to shoot Ravage. Im gonna go ahead and add these.-Proconix 17:43, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Proconix


Not to chat or anything, but does anyone know why Scourge pops his head up when he asks galvatron if he wants him to gut ultra magnus? Just thought that was wierd.-Proconix 22:33, 25 May 2008 (UTC)Proconix


When the Decepticons get reformatted, both Skywarp, and what might be Bombshell, become Cyclonus. Unicron refers to them as 'Cyclonus and his Armada'. And when they all fly to the ship, Galvatron goes first, followed by Scourge, two Sweeps and two Cyclonus'. There a reason for this? Thyunda 13:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Does this answer your question? -Derik 13:18, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Even more animation errors

In the Madman Special edition version (and probably every other... i only just noticed it) that when Optimus removes the matrix... he removes only the 'crystal' center... yet the next few shots show him holding the case as well.

Sliftidus 05:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Splitting the article

This thing's pretty hefty, all things considered, and when I've been looking at it, it makes sense to me to split it up a little into different articles. I'm currently thinking that branching the international versions into a new article (probably titled International Versions of The Transformers: The Movie, or the like), as well as splitting the various comic releases into an article called The Transformers: The Movie in Other Media. I mean, really, 19 headings, and any additional sub-headings is a bit cumbersome. Jeep! 00:05, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

So, uh, anyone else keen on this? Don't wanna do it without someone actually chiming in on it... Jeep! 05:06, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
Sod it, I'm gonna split off the Internation Versions bit for now and see how that goes down. Jeep! 17:16, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Gundam reference?

In the Animation Errors sectin which said: Not technically an error, but definitely an animator's easter egg; in the Quintesson jail cell, robot debris strongly resembling the RX-178 MK II and the MSZ-006 mobile suits from 1985's Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, can be seen. Can anyone please show me a screen shot of it? It would b nice if it is shown on the page. You can also email 2 me too.

--Spidermaniscool 10:47, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

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there's no moderator for this article nor for the TF wikia itself?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs).

Yeah, there's three administrators (myself, Xeno the Hedgehog, and the chief, TX55). I tend to watch this article like a hawk, though. Jeep! 14:40, October 9, 2009 (UTC)

I edited another page.

I didn't edit the Transformers: The Movie page, just the David Mendenhall page. Loosecannon540 09:07, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

aiming, etc.

People often pointed out things like the Decepticons' aim being far better in the shuttle scene than it was during the whole first two seasons. It's got to be taken into consideration that there is a gap of 20 years between the end of the second season and the movie, which is, by many times over, longer than the first two season combined (not counting, of course, the time before coming to Earth, the 4 million year "nap", the time travel incidents, etc.). Many things are never shown or explained. Is it not plausible that during that time the Decepticons got upgrades, say, in their aiming abilities, for example? Gringo300 (talk) 00:08, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

no gravity?

It's said in the article that weight couldn't be jettisoned from Astrotrain because there would be no gravity. Well, looking at it from the perspective of hard science, there would be gravity because the Decepticons are walking on the floor of Astrotrain's inside and the Constructicons fall to the floor when Rumble and Frenzy pound the floor. Maybe Astrotrain has an artificial gravity generator? But hard science fiction this is NOT. Gringo300 (talk) 00:15, March 24, 2013 (UTC)

Shrapnel's Blaster?

This might be a reach, but I think Megatron shoots Prime with Shrapnel's blaster. When Prime rams Shrapnel, Shrapnel's purple single-hand blaster goes flying off in another direction. Megatron shoots prime with a similar-looking blaster. TheUnknown285 (talk) 06:31, February 27, 2019 (UTC)

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