So Siph brought it up and Steve-o and I talked about it for a bit... Anyway, how are we going to treat the characters from BotCon 2008? From what we know about the set, it's clearly just G1-but-evil, so I don't think it's different enough to pass off as a separate continuity family. On the other hand, it'd be cleaner to give them their own pages. Meanwhile, pages like Optimus Prime's are long enough that even his fiction sections need to begin being split off anyway.
What I think we should do, at the moment, is treat Mirror Optimus Prime as a split from G1 Prime's page. As.... Optimus Prime (G1 mirror), maybe? Also, uh, create some Optimus Prime (G1 cartoon) and Optimus Prime (G1 Marvel) pages and the like. Akin to Wikipedia, Optimus Prime's main page should have abbreviated versions of these sections which link to the full versions on separate pages. --ItsWalky 02:38, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not so sure I'm up for splitting the pages around. True, some like Optimus and Megatron are quite large, but some of them are also quite small. I just don't think that we should split up just because a page is getting large. We've discussed that kinda idea at Wookieepedia before, and we concluded that it would just be easier to keep it all at one page. -- SFH 02:45, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm also against splitting up large pages of main characters, since keeping it all in one page would help readers get the full history of the character (well as much as we've written) from the various continuities. Easier for editing too, if one doesn't need to keep track of two different fictional versions of the same character on two different pages (three if you also have to add a summerised version on the main Optimus Prime (G1) page).
- As for Mirror Prime... how about we just call him Optimus Prime (Mirror)? --FFN 03:05, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Technically, he shouldn't be a new page, so long as he's clearly a G1 Prime. --ItsWalky 03:39, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps giving them Timelines parentheticals would be valid?--RosicrucianTalk 02:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Look who all's in the set... Prime, Jazz, Bumblebee, Grimlock and Starscream. Aren't all those pages already hideously long? --M Sipher 02:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
And oh yeah. I'm against splitting up the Fiction sections. Toys into their own, yes. But I'm leery of splitting up Fiction. --M Sipher 03:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- So in ten years, when Optimus Prime's page is three times as long, that'll be okay? That sounds a little ridiculous. --ItsWalky 03:13, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- About fiction sections: What Walky and I discussed perhaps hasn't been clearly explained here: We're not saying to take the fiction section out entirely like we did with "toys". The idea is that in the case of very long articles (like Prime's), we can take, say, the cartoon subsection, create a new article out of it, and in its spot on the main Prime page just have a summary of the high points with a note "see this other article for all the details". (Of course, his cartoon subsection right now isn't especially complete anyway. He appears in nearly every episode of Seasons 1-2 but most of those events aren't mentioned.) Important stuff in the main article, excruciating detail in a separate article. Perhaps it's not quite time for that yet, but eventually it will be. Like Walky says, G1 Prime's fiction section is just going to get longer and longer.
- About Shattered Glass guys: If we treat them as distinct characters with their own pages, I think "Shattered Glass" is the appropriate parenthetical. Definitely not "mirror" since that word doesn't seem to be in the description of the set. There should definitely be linking between the Shattered and normal articles, though. Perhaps even with the normal guys having a Timeslines: Shattered Glass subsection that says "see this other article for his evil counterpart".
- --Steve-o 03:47, 26 January 2008 (UTC)