Talk:Megatron (G1)

Split page?

So... time to split off Meggy's toy section as we did Optimus? --M Sipher 09:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely. I'd already twice considered bringing the issue up. --Rotty 09:31, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

Wikipedia Argh

So, uh, how much of this article is copied from Wikipedia? I am going to cry. --ItsWalky 06:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

A general rule I use for detecting wikipedia-copied info is when the information is deadly serious or rather blandly generic, or merely not nerdly enough :D . --FFN 10:48, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh, and when there are little to no links to existing pages on this wiki. --FFN 10:49, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

So do we carve out the wikipedianess and start over on those parts, or what? I can only imagine G1 Prime is in the same shape... though I haven't looked. --Monzo 12:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

It will be alot of work to write up new parts for those pilfiered articles, but does our wiki intend to be the most informative, or the most fun? Also, long article sections (like stuff stolen from wikipedias) tend to be very boring to read. --FFN 14:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

I shall leap in here and point out that the guts of the Wikipedia article (and Prime's, too) was written by me. It's evolved somewhat since then, and I don't remember EXACTLY how much of what was mine is here. I didn't copy it over, but I'm just sayin'. - Chris McFeely 15:53, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Uh, actually, looking back over this, only the Marvel Comics and animated series bits were really me... - Chris McFeely 15:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

On the changes - Iacon wasn't levelled in There Shall Come A Leader. It was destroyed by Trannis in The Middle Years. Megatron's intent to turn Cybertron into a warworld is referenced on page three of the first issue. And... where do we get that the war only lasted a hundred years before the Ark launch? This profile from the '86 annual says a thousand. --Monzo 04:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

"As you know, Megatron disappeared after a hundred or so years of war, and was presumed dead." --Xaaron, Legion of the Lost!, Part 1 I'll fix the Iacon thing, if it isn't already. --ItsWalky 05:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Masterpiece Megatron

The toy sections shouldn't read like reviews, man. Put that sort of thing on your blog, not on the wiki. --ItsWalky 12:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

Alignment

Is alignment in-continuity ENOUGH to merit mention? (The e-hobby Magnus stuff seems to tell 'some version' of alignment's events, I'd consider it AS in-continuity as the Last Days of Optimus Prime, whichw as later mentioned.) -Derik 05:05, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

I would say neither should be in there. Not endorsed by Hasbro and/or Takara? Not canon. - RolonBolon

I think they can be mentioned as long as they are stated as being pseudo-canonical. I certainly think that both of those stories deserve their own articles, for example. "Fanfic" written by Simon Furman is a little different than regular run of the mill fanfic. --Steve-o 20:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Alignment was mentioned in detail in the Ultimate Guide, so one could say it's retroactively canon. Not that I welcome it all that warmly, but... --ItsWalky 20:51, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Galvatron

In answer to Sipher's question he posed as a comment to his edit, no, I don't think Galvatron should be here. Whether they're the same character or not, Galvatron shows up plenty enough as his own character from the future (and tends to fight/team up/interact with Megatron) to warrant his own entry. Otherwise, a combined Megatron/Galvatron entry is just going to be way too long and confusing as hell. (And, yeah, I am factoring in that Galvatron II will prolly already get his own entry.) --ItsWalky 01:47, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Probably a good idea. While some characters (Smokescreen/Hoise, Bumblebee/Goldbug) get upgraded/renamed and basicalyl continue in a straight line, Galvatron time-jumps and even fights himself. In MANY continuities, Megatron doesnt' even BECOME Galvatron. -Derik 02:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Right. Galvatron's riding the fence between Hot Rod/Rodimus, Bumblebee/Goldbug and Dead Guy/Cyclonus, Waspinator/Thrust. Often enough he has no real connection to Megatron at all. And he's appeared enough to fight "himself" or on his own Galvatron-specific terms that it pushes it over the edge to Needs Own Page, in my opinion. --ItsWalky 02:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Super Megatron

http://www.transformertoys.co.uk/images~~othergallery~~concept~~generation~~manga-supermegatron.jpg.galleryimage254ba6a.php I wish this immage wasn't watermarked. X-BoB58 19:24, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

Photoshop.

Anyway, it's blurry t'wards the bottom... is this from Gneerations 2? -207.224.83.190 03:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I have a perfectly good picture of Ultra Megatron. I just have nowhere to put it on his page. --Monzo 03:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Category: Convention exclusives?

Was there really a Megatron toy that was a convention exclusive? This isn't mentioned in the sections for any of the toys. --Andrusi 19:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes. The original Megatron reissue was redecoed into the black Microchange colors as a BotCon Japan '01 exclusive. --FortMax 21:07, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

According to this, Black Megatron was only available for preorder at BotCon 2000. He was released from eHobby the following year. --ItsWalky 21:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Uh... Not only was there no BotCon Japan 2001, there was no TF-released black Microchange Megatron. There WAS a "black" version gunmetal chrome and red interior bits (where the Microchange was solid black platics with blue interior bits), but it sure as hell wasn't a BCJ exclusive. Moderately sure that was e-hobby or maybe Toys Dream Project or some one-off. --M Sipher 21:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Choro Q G2 Megatron? I dunno. Interrobang 00:32, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Hm. That's more merchandise than anything else, but it IS a convention-exclusive piece. Could go either way. --M Sipher 01:36, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Alternators Megatron

Wasn't there meant to be a Cadillac Alternators Megatron in the pipeline? Well it's almost certainly been cancelled now, but it still warrants a tiny mention on this page. IMO.

Space pic

Couldn't fit this pic in anywhere, and I replaced it with a toy pic anyway. --FFN 04:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Aww, that's almost adorable

Titanium Megs

>The Titanium Megatron toy was inspired by Dreamwave's first G.I. Joe crossover set in World War II.

When was this established? Absent evidence ot the contrary, I assumed he belonged to Divided Front continuity. -Derik 01:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

Megatron: Origin

I'm looking at the issue, and I can't see if it's been confirmed yet that Soundwave's employer is Senator Ratbat. It's likely, but seemingly not confirmed in this issue.--Rosicrucian 21:14, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Let's say it's extreamly likely, as it's just about as strongly implied by the narrative (and by narrative convention) as possible without someone going "Psst, hey kid..." from behind the curtain. I mean we have a clearly manipulative, selfserving Ratbat talking to his off-panel underling who speaks in Soundwave-style about technological advances and about manipulating Megatron, and then later you have Soundwave showing up and "manipulating" Megatron while talking about the offpannel Master who sent him. Pretty definative case narratively speaking. If it's somehow improbably wrong we can change it later (and I'll eat this wiki). ;) --ZacWilliam 07:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh, I agree that it's probably the case, just that since we're only citing issue 2 it's not quite covered.--Rosicrucian 14:55, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Lines

Steve-o removed all the "ugly lines" that were marking off various fictional super-sections for clarity. Sipher, I know you were working on a fix for this, which involved making the differences between the header sizes more obvious. Is this finished? Can we implement it please? --ItsWalky 18:43, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

In re-examining the previous version of the page now that I know Walky liked the lines and thought they clarified things, I still believe they were ugly and didn't really help to make the sections more distinct. --Steve-o 18:47, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Megatron/Majin Zarak

Explain to me again why we need to start up a big talkpage debate to overrule the fanboy ramblings of a single user?--Rosicrucian^Talk 03:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

That depends, which fanboy user are you referring to? I count three involved at this point. -Derik 03:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Ah, didn't see you'd joined in. Mostly saw PPrime going off on another of his rants.--Rosicrucian^Talk 03:16, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

French voice of Megatron in France for G1

The voice of Megatron in france was dubbed by Henry Djanik ( http://www.planete-jeunesse.com/sources/show_pers.php3?cle=137 )

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