Talk: Lockdown (TFA)

I THINK Lockdown is the bounty hunter, and Lugnut's the decipticon Bulkhead.

Bio from the box Scan - [removed illegal link] Thanks to the Allspark. --invisiblemoose 9:41, 3 December 2007 (NZ)

Please see Help:Coming soon. Those toys aren't supposed to be released yet, so information gleamed from auctions of possibly-stolen copies of them should not be added to Teletraan I. --Sntint 21:03, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk about stupid rules. What's the point of it? If we update something that Hasbro want's us to remove, we can simply do that. Until then, why not update any new rumors that we could just find? --Hepathos 21:23, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

Rumors are stupid hobby-poison and have no place here. But Lockdown's bio is not a "rumor," since we do know what it is. Info from stolen items, especially items that were about to be released anyway, I could personally see going either way--but it is policy here that such are forbidden. --Thylacine 2000 21:42, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

If by 'about to be released' you mean June 2008.... --invisiblemoose 11:39, 3 December 2007 (NZ)

The same can be said for Prowl (Animated) when that was updated MONTHS ago. There was some reluctance, but it was updated anyway. --invisiblemoose 11:16, 3 December 2007 (NZ)

Something seems odd here

I just recently got a Lockdown figure from a Q102 Raffle back during Botcon, and I just got him all transformed when I noticed that 3/4 of his limbs are either colored wrong or lacking paint when compared to the *VERY* show accurate pic of him on the back of his card. Is this normal? AutobotFreak643 20:41, 2 May 2008 (UTC) P.S. He also doesn't have a rubsign after all on the toy, but the box shows it on the car roof in all of G1 rubsign glory.

image captions

So, who's for making all his captions Bishop quotes? if the picture allows for it of course...--Carrion 16:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Death's Head quotes would seem more appropriate, yes?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.138.15.186 (talk • contribs).

Eh, we can mix and match and see what works.

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Deaths Head homage?

He does appere a homage to Deaths Head, his hand changes into weaponery and his to has the "cleached teath look to it. worth metioning? Editoroflife 08:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

New toy image

It's from Transformers.com, so it's official. The 'Bee :) 16:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

EMP generator

I just saw that the EMP generator can be removed from lockdown's arm with a simple peg in the same shape of ratchet's scar, so i'm almost sure that it can be atatched to ratchet.--Grand-majin 16:06, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Yay! :D The 'Bee :) 15:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Yep,you can see it on peaugh's youtube channel,no direct linking though since we're not "allowed" to know this. Decepticon Rhinox 13:55, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

No, we're allowed to post stuff about the toys now. They've been officially released to stores in Cincinnati. This isn't a leak this time, they're a test-market.--Rosicrucian^Talk 15:14, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Wrong,Ratchet is wave 2,so he has not been released to test market yet. So we're still not "allowed" to know things about ratchet's toy. Decepticon Rhinox 10:54, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Um, wave 2 has been released. —Interrobang 11:43, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Wow,so it's not just a wave of testmarketing anymore. That's some crazy shit. Decepticon Rhinox 16:02, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Size

Why is the size changed from leader to voyager? next to my movie ratchet, lockdown is a head taller, so it schould be changed to "almost as big as a leader class toy" or it schould be changed to "bigger then a voyager class toy."

It is being sold at Voyager class. Being larger than another Voyager by a head does not make it a different size class.--Rosicrucian^Talk 15:52, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Was it not deluxe class?--Grand-majin 15:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Then why are you claiming the size was changed from leader to voyager? If you're just talking about the line that says he's "nearly as big as a voyager" that still puts him a long way from a leader-class as he's only taller not bigger.--Rosicrucian^Talk 16:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Oh, then i said it wrong, sorry. i just wanted to note that for a deluxe class toy, that he's bigger then most voyager class toys, putting him closer to the size of a leader class toy.--Grand-majin 16:14, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

No, he's taller than many Voyager class toys. Height has nothing to do with it. Size classes are determined by two main things: complexity and mass. That's why Cybertron Metroplex is a Leader instead of a Supreme and Animated Bulkhead is a Voyager instead of a Deluxe. --FortMax 16:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

There's a big size gulf between voyagers and leaders, due to the omitted ultra class.--Rosicrucian^Talk 16:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't know how tall the animated toyline leader class toys are, so i compared him to movie optimus prime, he's about a head smaller. I just want it to be noted that for a deluxe, he has an impressive size.(and excuse me wen i mix bigger and taller, i mix those up often.)--Grand-majin 16:27, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Which Movie Prime? If it's the one where the truck nose forms a backpack and the robot chest windows are not the truck mode windows, you've got the Voyager Prime. --FortMax 16:59, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Considering the context of the discussion, I'm guessing Grand-majin means the Leader-class Movie Prime, especially since he says Lockdown's taller than Movie Ratchet.--Apcog 17:05, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

yeah, i was talking about the leader class prime.--Grand-majin 17:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Hook arm

Since the hook arm is detachable and dosent match his colours scheem, is anyone thinking that this might just be like the EMP generator, can also go on annother toy, i think maybe, oil slick? Maybe we're gona get various toys later on with parts the detach and can be added to Lockdown, his chainsaw arm, ect? Editoroflife 02:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Being a hook, it could be a piece for one of the constructicons or Oil Slick( same color pattern)

The hook's color scheme is different to make it match up well in car mode,it detaches because it's a detachable weapon,plus he appears that way in flashbacks so you'll have his cybertron mode and earth mode in one toy. Decepticon Rhinox 13:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

The hook attachment's yellow is entirely hidden in car mode. It has yellow trim on the revealed robot parts because that's what color his hook arm is on his character model. No other reason. --ItsWalky 14:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Decepticon?

He Mentioned he wasn't one of them. Why do you Identified as a decepticon. Black rhino ranger 14:26, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Your approach to capitalization is refreshing.

Anyway, Hasbro identifies him as a Decepticon. JW 14:35, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's how Hasbro identifies him, but in show, he only works with the Decepticons because "they pay on time, and allow him the upgrades he wants". At least that's what the article says.--AWT88 15:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Yes, we know. But rather like Gnaw the Sharkticon, who technically was on the Quintessons' side, he's marketed as a Decepticon, and so is listed as such. Lockdown's article specifically says he's a Decepticon "by necessity," indicating he isn't part of the faction in the usual sense.--Apcog 15:41, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Personally I'm quite tempted to see if I can't fit a rubsign over his tampographed faction symbol when I get him. To fit the cartoon.--Rosicrucian^Talk 15:45, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Not a bad idea. Anyone know if the reprolabels rubsigns are actually rub-able?Decepticon Rhinox 10:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Well, I was watching A Fistful of Energon when I noticed something a little strange about the empty emblem space on his chest. There's one shot near the end that intrigued me; the shot when he's talking to Prowl after everything's said and done. Am I the only one who thinks that looks like an Autobot symbol?Spindercon 20:25, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

That's because it was based on the rubsigns that were on the G1 toys for three years and the Classics line. --FortMax 20:43, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Ah, I see. I don't pretend to know much about the toys, I mostly just watch the series. Thanks for the clarification. Spindercon 01:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Lockdown's classed as a Deception by Hasbro because they don't have a symbol for neutral mechs. Same goes for Swindle, who'll sell to anybody but mainly deals with Decepticons because most Autobots won't sink to his level.

Concept art

Very interesting... Worth adding to the page? - Cyberlink420 00:11, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

I would say so. I hope more concept work gets out, I love that stuff.--Carrion 00:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

EMP gen engine after loss

Despite having lost the EMP generator, Lockdown retains the external engine it comprises in his vehicle mode, as seen in "A Fistful of Energon". While watching, I noticed that the engine looked a bit different. Also, when he transformed, it seemed to purposely call attention to it. Perhaps we should say something about it.--Skyglide 04:31, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Flame Redeco

What is the source of the Flame redeco with the chainsaw weapon, have we seen this with its new weapon, if so where can i find a picture? Editoroflife 02:23, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

It was seen in a slide presentation at BotCon 2008. --ItsWalky 03:03, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

Got a picture? Editoroflife 07:27, 8 June 2008 (UTC)

I propose that when we finally do have a photo of this retool/redeco, the caption should read something along the lines of "Flames and a chainsaw hand. Awesome." It really is amazing what you come up with in the shower. --Hammerstrike 03:34, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Under what justification is this considered a retool? It's a repaint. but with a different weapon. The actual figure appears unchanged in all but paint applications.

Lobo?

Interstellar bounty hunter. Face markings. Is it me or is there a strong resemblance here?

Lobo on wiki

Hardly. Although his face "paint" does have some ressemblance, he is very different in body style and attitude. The artist never mentionned drawing with inspiration of Lobo either. (Tribor 05:51, 7 July 2008 (UTC))

Bloodwulf! -Derik 04:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Stealth Lockdown?

Do we have any sort of confirmation that the toy will actually be a clear redeco? --Detour 02:26, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

His vehicle mode is adorable yet terrifying...

Shouldn't we take this out? It adds nothing to the article and is based on opinion, not fact, and therefore it is not true "trivia".Proconix 19:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)Proconix

It's humourus. It's the same deal as with the captions. Other people have it in their trivia sections, like Ruination has. Onslaught Six 01:07, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Removed contents

http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Lockdown&diff=265341&oldid=265212

• Lockdown is the only Transformer in the Animated continuity who landed on Earth to retain his Cybertronian alt-mode. However he's not the only one in the Transformers mythos who has made the decision not to scan a new disguise, as there are some others who are not here to blend.
  • Though it does raise the question of why an alien design looks so much like an Earth vehicle...

http://transformers.wikia.com/index.php?title=Lockdown&diff=281866&oldid=281843

• It could be he become greedy and was hired by Megatron to betrayed his teacher.

Why?

Is there a reason you put the unknown when being released thing on Bandit Lockdown toy? It was already released I have it.