Talk:Jhiaxus (G2)

Go-Jhiaxus

Should mention be made of the fact that a Jhiaxus-based recolor of Go-Bots Silver-Bot was in the plans for OTFCC 2003? I think it was proposed as a dinner exclusive. Anyone have more hard info?

That's pretty much it. Glen proposed it, and then Dan Khanna said no, because only #wiigii! would appreciate it. We hate Dan. --ItsWalky 03:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

I think this SHOULD be mentioned under an Unreleased Toys section, but I'm having trouble getting a sold citation anywhere. Like, was it mentioned at an organizer's panel? --Monzo 13:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Categorizing

Why is he in Category:Decepticons when it was emphasized that the Cybertronian Empire was its own standalone faction, and we treat them as such at Cybertronian Empire?

His RiD toy was sold as a Decepticon. --KilMichaelMcC 04:14, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

So RiD Jhiaxus is "really" a G1 multiverse character with another continuity's brand logo like Supreme Primal and not a RiD universe counterpart like the G1 and RiD Ultra Magni? --Rotty 04:19, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

From the very page you're asking about...

"Unicron abducted Jhiaxus and stripped him of his rank and power. Though he once again wears the brand of an ordinary Decepticon, he still nurses a hatred towards Autobot and Decepticon alike. They are all, of course, unevolved, inferior throw-backs. This bias forces him to work alone."

Personally, I feel that this cannot be THE same Jhiaxus as the one from the G2 comic, what with the devoured-by-Swarm and all, and is rather an alternate-universe incarnation who should have his own page, as Universe Tankor, Obsidian, and others should. -- M Sipher, who can't seem to stay logged in for more than a page. What the FUCK, wiki?

I'm in agreement with this. Let's split Jhiaxus accordingly. --Rotty 04:39, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Unicron could have just pulled his spark out from the brink of death, that's totally within his power. 85.195.123.22 22:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I've actually never been clear on why those Universe guys get articles of their own, if they're supposed to be the same characters, just plucked from alternate timelines. --KilMichaelMcC 04:54, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

I believe it's because they could, by virtue of existing in 'Universe', so-exist alongside a separate version of themselves. (Like Fireflight does.) In this case however, his bio is so damn explicit that he's the G2 version that we left it in his G1 entry. (We even see him in his G2 body prior to reformatting IIRC.)

We should have a category for the Cybertronian Empire faction though. There's jsut a few characters, but there's also warships, ranks et al. -Derik 05:28, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Personally I feel that cartoon Optimus Prime cannot be the same one from the comics.

Your logic sucks Siph. They both go under the Optimus Prime (G1) entry. -Derik 05:33, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Universe also gives us a Brawn who was yanked out of the G2 comics right before he died. I hope we aren't giving him his own article! If we can put 30 disparate versions of every single other character on a single page, so long as they're from the same continuity family, why can't we have two near-identical versions of Jhiaxus? It's not like the Universe version officially got a new name, like Galvatron II. --ItsWalky 23:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

IDW Jhiaxus same guy???

What we know about IDW Jhiaxus: He's an ancient Autobot and theoretical strategist who invented the gestalt process. That's not really anything like the Jhiaxus from G2. The only connection I see at all is that both were created by Furman. Granted that fact suggests that there may indeed be a connection going forward, but we have zero evidence for it so far.

Actually, he predates the Autobot faction I believe, (As evidenced as Galvatron mentions him predating factions). As an aside: Is Jhiaxus shown in Spotlight Optimus? Or merely a textual reference? --Tindalos 20:44, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Jhiaxus is only name-dropped, and he predates the war. --ItsWalky 20:55, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Predating the Autobots is meaningless, Sunstorm and Ricochet are clones in Dreamwave but not other continuities.

I'm going to remove him from category Autobots though as it's a nonsense - he's not an Autobot in G2, IDW or as a toy Emvee 12:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

If IDW Jhiaxus isn't an Autobot, then Nova Prime shouldn't be listed as one, either. --Xaaron 14:37, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Technically, he kinda is, if the usual Transformers history of "Everyone are Autobots until Decepticons split off" holds up. Megatron Origin, IIRC supports this by having Autobot symbols practically everywhere, even before Megatron forms the Decepticons. --ItsWalky 14:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Technically, sure, but that can't be our criteria for listing categories here. Otherwise EVERY G1 Decepticon created before the war in any continuity should also be listed as an Autobot: Megatron, Starscream, Shockwave, Ravage, etc. --Xaaron 17:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'm definitely not suggesting that. --ItsWalky 18:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

To be fair, the Autobots in Megatron Origin seem to be a police force, not something that encompasses everyone. Se Jhiaxus as an Autobot doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Jeep! 18:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

So should Galvatron be in Category: Autobots as well, since he was part of Nova Prime's crew? Also, I'm re-reading Megatron:Origin (gah! thanks a bunch!) and there *aren't* Autobot symbols everywhere. Every time they appear they're linked to Sentinel Prime's security force (and to a lesser extent, the senate) but they're not worn by everyone at all - in fact there seem to be quite a mixture of insignias and factions att play there. Calling IDW Jhiaxus an Autobot is at best speculation, and categorising him as such is, as I said before, nonsense. Emvee 20:55, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

I think it should be presume-its-him-in-the-absence-of-other-information, but include a note saying we're not sure. -Derik 20:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Given how meticulously planned the references in the Spotlight titles have been, it's entirely likely we will have Jhiaxus in a later issue. Furman has been pretty good about not just name dropping so far, and the Ark crew are still around in some capacity.--Rosicrucian 21:06, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

He's a high ranking expansionist/supremacist who left Cybertron some time ago. What here doesn't jive with G2 Jhiaxus? Chip 00:24, 1 September 2007 (UTC)