I had heard that Energon featured the Combiners as ancient Deceptions that likely predate Megatron. I haven't seen it myself but just throwing it out there. Also G1 Cartoon vs. Comic bots should likely get separate entries, since there's the whole "military hardware" lineage to mention for the toon, and the "Liege Maximo" as Megatron's ancestor, for the comic. ZacWilliam 00:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Energon confuses the shit out of me. I don't think anyone actually THOUGHT about what they were writing.
Any rate, yeah, for G1 we really should separate the two major continuities. I mean, the cartoon at once point says Megatron wasn't the first Decepticon... but had said he WAS earlier... SPEAKING of not thinking... --M Sipher 00:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The Dorling Kindersly Book,makes him out as a Decepticon Pit Fighter who battled his way up through the ranks. Look also to the other statuary visible during Starscream's coronation that tends to lend credence to Megatron not being the first Decepticon,rather the latest leader descending from the Quintesson's original military hardware product line. ChoHIlqoq 18:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

In Wreckers, Al Badur, who'd been exiled from Cybertron since prior to the Quint uprising, refers to Autobots and Decepticons. I'd say that the military line was CALLED the Decepticons. (And their sigil was likely their glave-brand, albeit as warriors, not servants) If Megatron 'founded' the Decepticon movement, he could be 'refounding' it, or co-opting what was otherwise an unrelated historical legacy. (Which is weak, but it has the merit of threading the needle between the conflicting evidence of War Dawn, FFoD and Desertion of the Dinobots.) -Derik 01:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)


Just sprucing things up. ChoHIlqoq 18:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Air Power

The Decepticons are mostly known for their military and air power. Starscream always turn into a jet. Megatron turns into military vehicles such as an M1 Abrams Superheavy Tank.

Leader's rank

I've noticed that while the Japanese fiction usually does the whole "something of Destruction", is there any sort of title for the leader of the Decepticons in Western fiction? I've seen "Decepticon commander" every now and then, and is that supposed to be the official title, or just a generic rank? -- SFH 03:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Galvatron - Decepticon

Under the robots in disguise section it says "The toy version of Galvatron was also labeled as a Decepticon, although this "change" in the character's faction was not established in the cartoon series." but in the episode maximus emerges when megs comes back as galvatron he says "which led to my rebirth as a decepticon". Donutter 21:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

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