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I had heard that Energon featured the Combiners as ancient Deceptions that likely predate Megatron. I haven't seen it myself but just throwing it out there. Also G1 Cartoon vs. Comic bots should likely get separate entries, since there's the whole "military hardware" lineage to mention for the toon, and the "Liege Maximo" as Megatron's ancestor, for the comic. [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 00:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 
I had heard that Energon featured the Combiners as ancient Deceptions that likely predate Megatron. I haven't seen it myself but just throwing it out there. Also G1 Cartoon vs. Comic bots should likely get separate entries, since there's the whole "military hardware" lineage to mention for the toon, and the "Liege Maximo" as Megatron's ancestor, for the comic. [[User:ZacWilliam|ZacWilliam]] 00:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
   
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In Wreckers, Al Badur, who'd been exiled from Cybertron since prior to the Quint uprising, refers to Autobots and Decepticons. I'd say that the military line was CALLED the Decepticons. (And their sigil was likely their glave-brand, albeit as warriors, not servants) If Megatron 'founded' the Decepticon movement, he could be 'refounding' it, or co-opting what was otherwise an unrelated historical legacy. (Which is weak, but it has the merit of threading the needle between the conflicting evidence of War Dawn, FFoD and Desertion of the Dinobots.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
 
In Wreckers, Al Badur, who'd been exiled from Cybertron since prior to the Quint uprising, refers to Autobots and Decepticons. I'd say that the military line was CALLED the Decepticons. (And their sigil was likely their glave-brand, albeit as warriors, not servants) If Megatron 'founded' the Decepticon movement, he could be 'refounding' it, or co-opting what was otherwise an unrelated historical legacy. (Which is weak, but it has the merit of threading the needle between the conflicting evidence of War Dawn, FFoD and Desertion of the Dinobots.) -[[User:Derik|Derik]] 01:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
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: "War Down" and "Five Faces Of Darkness" pretty clearly contradict each other. I've thought so from day one. [[User:Gringo300|Gringo300]] ([[User talk:Gringo300|talk]]) 02:09, July 29, 2013 (UTC)
   
 
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Under the robots in disguise section it says "The toy version of Galvatron was also labeled as a Decepticon, although this "change" in the character's faction was not established in the cartoon series." but in the episode maximus emerges when megs comes back as galvatron he says "which led to my rebirth as a decepticon". [[User:Donutter|Donutter]] 21:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 
Under the robots in disguise section it says "The toy version of Galvatron was also labeled as a Decepticon, although this "change" in the character's faction was not established in the cartoon series." but in the episode maximus emerges when megs comes back as galvatron he says "which led to my rebirth as a decepticon". [[User:Donutter|Donutter]] 21:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
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==RID episode?==
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Do we actually have an episode page for RID's "The Decepticons"? The RID cartoon page says we do, but it redirects here.... and the disambiguation page redirects here too. Attempting to search for "The Decepticons (RID)" or "The Decepticons (episode)" were fruitless. --[[User:Thylacine 2000|Thylacine 2000]] 15:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
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==Catchphrase==
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Does anyone think that the Animated Megatron's "Transform and Rise Up" would be effectively used as a quote on this page, either for the decepticons in general or for the Animated branch?
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:I added it to the Animated section. Quotes can be as effective a decoration as pictures. [[User:Alientraveller|Alientraveller]] 21:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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::Except that we don't decorate articles. We use pictures and quotes for informational purposes, not for decoration. Plus, "transform and rise up" doesn't tell you anything about the Decepticons other than thay can transform. --[[User:FortMax|FortMax]] 21:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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== Decepticon propaganda? ==
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hi all,
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I have been reading both the american comics as well as the u.k. versions since child hood like many of you, and
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as such am well aware of the fact that the decepticons are more warworthy then the autobots to an important
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degree. BUT GOLLY! after reading some of the latest issues (specifically megatron's orgin comics) it seems like
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some of the biggest decepticons are the writers at IDW. it almost seems as if they are romantisizing the
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decepticon uprising as freedom fighting and making the autobots the bad guys. this combined with nova prime's
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story tainting the prime lineage and the shattered glass mirror verse...
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anyone else sensing something here?
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:Essentially, [[Eric Holmes]] is both a hack, and [[Raksha]] in disguise. --[[User:Detour|Detour]] 00:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
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stop making fun of the stuff on this site and be more civilized like the other sites.
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== I wish... ==
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that there was a list of ALL decepticons in all sorts of ranks... sigh.
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== added comments ==
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It is said in the article that it's implied that Megatron founded the Decepticons in the Generation 1 cartoon.
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I recall in at least one episode of the Generation 1 cartoon where it pretty clearly states that the Decepticons existed for some time before Megatron even existed. I don't recall which episode off the top of my head. However, there was at least one other episode that seemed to contradict this. As I've said many times, I wish I had a dollar for every contradiction in the Generation 1 cartoon.
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[[User:Gringo300|Gringo300]] ([[User talk:Gringo300|talk]]) 11:10, July 15, 2013 (UTC)
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== Evilness ==
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Evil side rules for life permanently

Latest revision as of 04:04, October 16, 2015

heardEdit

I had heard that Energon featured the Combiners as ancient Deceptions that likely predate Megatron. I haven't seen it myself but just throwing it out there. Also G1 Cartoon vs. Comic bots should likely get separate entries, since there's the whole "military hardware" lineage to mention for the toon, and the "Liege Maximo" as Megatron's ancestor, for the comic. ZacWilliam 00:17, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

Energon confuses the shit out of me. I don't think anyone actually THOUGHT about what they were writing.
Any rate, yeah, for G1 we really should separate the two major continuities. I mean, the cartoon at once point says Megatron wasn't the first Decepticon... but had said he WAS earlier... SPEAKING of not thinking... --M Sipher 00:54, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
  • The Dorling Kindersly Book,makes him out as a Decepticon Pit Fighter who battled his way up through the ranks. Look also to the other statuary visible during Starscream's coronation that tends to lend credence to Megatron not being the first Decepticon,rather the latest leader descending from the Quintesson's original military hardware product line. ChoHIlqoq 18:10, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

In Wreckers, Al Badur, who'd been exiled from Cybertron since prior to the Quint uprising, refers to Autobots and Decepticons. I'd say that the military line was CALLED the Decepticons. (And their sigil was likely their glave-brand, albeit as warriors, not servants) If Megatron 'founded' the Decepticon movement, he could be 'refounding' it, or co-opting what was otherwise an unrelated historical legacy. (Which is weak, but it has the merit of threading the needle between the conflicting evidence of War Dawn, FFoD and Desertion of the Dinobots.) -Derik 01:36, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

"War Down" and "Five Faces Of Darkness" pretty clearly contradict each other. I've thought so from day one. Gringo300 (talk) 02:09, July 29, 2013 (UTC)

SpelliningEdit

Just sprucing things up. ChoHIlqoq 18:01, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

Air Power Edit

The Decepticons are mostly known for their military and air power. Starscream always turn into a jet. Megatron turns into military vehicles such as an M1 Abrams Superheavy Tank.

Leader's rankEdit

I've noticed that while the Japanese fiction usually does the whole "something of Destruction", is there any sort of title for the leader of the Decepticons in Western fiction? I've seen "Decepticon commander" every now and then, and is that supposed to be the official title, or just a generic rank? -- SFH 03:34, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Galvatron - Decepticon Edit

Under the robots in disguise section it says "The toy version of Galvatron was also labeled as a Decepticon, although this "change" in the character's faction was not established in the cartoon series." but in the episode maximus emerges when megs comes back as galvatron he says "which led to my rebirth as a decepticon". Donutter 21:28, 28 February 2008 (UTC)


RID episode?Edit

Do we actually have an episode page for RID's "The Decepticons"? The RID cartoon page says we do, but it redirects here.... and the disambiguation page redirects here too. Attempting to search for "The Decepticons (RID)" or "The Decepticons (episode)" were fruitless. --Thylacine 2000 15:12, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

CatchphraseEdit

Does anyone think that the Animated Megatron's "Transform and Rise Up" would be effectively used as a quote on this page, either for the decepticons in general or for the Animated branch?

I added it to the Animated section. Quotes can be as effective a decoration as pictures. Alientraveller 21:42, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
Except that we don't decorate articles. We use pictures and quotes for informational purposes, not for decoration. Plus, "transform and rise up" doesn't tell you anything about the Decepticons other than thay can transform. --FortMax 21:47, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Decepticon propaganda? Edit

hi all, I have been reading both the american comics as well as the u.k. versions since child hood like many of you, and as such am well aware of the fact that the decepticons are more warworthy then the autobots to an important degree. BUT GOLLY! after reading some of the latest issues (specifically megatron's orgin comics) it seems like some of the biggest decepticons are the writers at IDW. it almost seems as if they are romantisizing the decepticon uprising as freedom fighting and making the autobots the bad guys. this combined with nova prime's story tainting the prime lineage and the shattered glass mirror verse... anyone else sensing something here?

Essentially, Eric Holmes is both a hack, and Raksha in disguise. --Detour 00:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

stop making fun of the stuff on this site and be more civilized like the other sites.

I wish... Edit

that there was a list of ALL decepticons in all sorts of ranks... sigh.

added comments Edit

It is said in the article that it's implied that Megatron founded the Decepticons in the Generation 1 cartoon.

I recall in at least one episode of the Generation 1 cartoon where it pretty clearly states that the Decepticons existed for some time before Megatron even existed. I don't recall which episode off the top of my head. However, there was at least one other episode that seemed to contradict this. As I've said many times, I wish I had a dollar for every contradiction in the Generation 1 cartoon.

Gringo300 (talk) 11:10, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Evilness Edit

Evil side rules for life permanently

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