There is no need for this article, as Armada (G1) already exists, and is far more informative. --Steve-o 20:46, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

Why not just make it a redirect? - Dark T Zeratul 21:57, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Because it should be Cyclonus's Armada anyway. You don't drop the s in the possessive unless we're talking super awesome supernatural people like Jesus. I learned that recently. --ItsWalky 22:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)


Um... "The Sweeps" are in bold, too, and we're looking at at least two or three more, uh, Cycloni being formed behind Cyclonus, so how is the IDW comic adaptation implying that "Armada" is a singular character, exactly?--MCRG 00:15, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I do not see two or three other Cycloni in this image. --ItsWalky 00:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh, so I'm supposed to be reading that as guys-being-turned-into-Cycloni instead of dead Bombshell and a couple of forming Cycloni? Not... exactly... the clearest thing ever unless you've already seen the movie. --MCRG 00:33, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, there's Cyclonus, there's another Cyclonus, and then there are two Cyclonus-shaped wireframes. I suppose they could suddenly become Sweeps instead at the last second, but... --Andrusi 00:37, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
It's not the clearest storytelling in the world (by which I mean it's Don art), but those Cyclonus-shaped wireframes are the intermediate forms between Bombshell/Skywarp and Cyclonus/Armada, not individual guys themselves. -LV 01:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how relevant this is, but in Five Faces Of Darkness, most notably in part 5, there are PLENTY of Cycloni appearing as the Decepticons attack Cybertron, and during their retreat at the end of the episode. Detour 15:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I don't have the Marvel comic adation of TF:TM handy, is the Armada mentioned/seen there? -Derik 02:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

They're created in the last page of the first issue and the first page of the second, in which we see countless robots being created out of the surface of Unicron's planet mode. We learn about Scourge and his Sweeps, Cyclonus (who is Galvatron's ship), and later we hear about the two and "their subordinates." (SPECIAL TRIVIA: A conehead is seen among the Decepticons thrown out.) --ItsWalky 03:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Bah. Someone else can do that.  ;). (I find it surprising how frequently I lament not having my TF:TM digitized for quick reference...) -Derik 22:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
There's also another problem with Five Faces of Darkness. Among the Decepticons Wheelie is running from while carrying the transformation cog, he heads straight for a group of Decepticons which is also composed of Insecticons...including Bombshell in the middle. I'd chalk that up to an amination error, but when has anyone ever accepted that? -- SFH 01:03, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
Extra insecticons is something I never really fretted, considering.--Rosicrucian 01:06, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

El Wreckooni

I'm wondering if it'd be okay to go ahead and note that Wreckers Finale flat-out says who became who (at least, as far as Wreckers is concerned) now rather than waiting for the month to be up, and in a month putting in the relevant quote, since it's kinda spoilery for a plot point. I dunno. --M Sipher 16:58, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Whatever it turns out to be, wouldn't it be a similar situation to the Madman/Metrodome DVD profile, being your own interpretation pushed as canon? No offense intended but if the DVD profiles can be so easily ignored, in the interest of objectivity so can your take on it. --Detour 17:18, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
That's why Sipher says "at least, as far as Wreckers is concerned." He's saying that what Wreckers says ultimately doesn't have an influence on the original movie, just that Wreckers presents one possible answer. (Though, really, I'd suggest the original movie already answered that question, and the only reason there's even a debate in the first place is because a few people didn't like the answer presented.) --ItsWalky 18:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I kinda think that an officially published story has priority over obscure DVD profiles. Interrobang 17:33, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
The obscure DVDs and their extra content were still official. --Detour 17:40, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Page Title

I've edited the actual body of text, but this page really needs to be moved to Cyclonus' Armada. There should not be an s after the apostrophe, since the name Cyclonus ends in s. Jeep! 22:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

You should read. - 00:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
I did. That supports both views. And as an English major, I can tell you that xxxs's isn't kosher in this parts at all, and seems to be a neologism at best. It's unprofessional and unsightly. Jeep! 02:29, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
The style guide says it ought to be "Cyclonus's": "Possessives of singular nouns ending in s should generally maintain the additional s after the apostrophe." --Tetrap 23:05, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
I've honestly not seen that been accepted as the case anywhere but the internet, so I'm calling international shenanigans on it. If anoyne genuinely prefers the sloppy-looking "Cyclonus's" variant, I'll move it back, but in all honesty, I really can't stand it, and have never once been taught anywhere that it's correct, and I've been studying English for 16, 17 years now. Jeep! 00:41, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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