Right, this page been created. Somebody ought to fill it in, seeing as how I wasn't there, maybe with the cast? Metal Gear NOIZE 19:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

You really need to create a page more fully, otherwise it'll get marked for deletion, as it is now. NO article is preferable to a very poor one. I've filled in the rest of the cast and what I can remember of the plot, but you should've waited until you had more info or for someone who WAS there (preferably one of the writers) to start the article.
I'm leaving the pending deletion up for now, in case I still haven't brought the article up to snuff despite adding all I could remember. If someone else feels it doesn't merit that any more, great, but I don't feel qualified to judge this one.--Apcog 23:39, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

It's up on YouTube; I'm loathe to edit the wikipage on something I wrote. I will correct some non-synopsis things, tho.

--M Sipher 02:26, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Opinon on bee in the city and some info about it... Bee in the city is a really cool idea to start off. Marty Iseburg co-creator of transformers animated was in it to as pro. sumdac, and other characters. So it is really a whole thing with running gags and funny things. It is totally okay for young veiwers and it really is just listening and using your imagination. The links are above so check it out!


Uh, yeah. I think it's way too easy to overdo quotes on this, seeing as the script is at its core a procession of verbal gags. I think we can lay off them... but ones that are specific references, like the "hard hat" one, should get explanations. --M Sipher 22:53, 12 May 2008 (UTC)


Why do the OTFCC/Botcon script readings warrent a page on this "official" Transformers Wiki, while the script reading at TFCon doesn't? According to this[1], neither of the script readings count as official as far as Hasbro is concerned.

Just my humble opinion, but if you're going to include BotCon's glorified fan fiction, TFCon's deserves a place here as well. --Nightshade83 21:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh, for Pete's sake. They're included because they're a named event that's officially part of the programme at an official convention. TFCon is not an official convention, so it doesn't get included. We get that you obviously went, and enjoyed it, and want to include it, but it doesn't warrant inclusion. - Chris McFeely 21:54, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Who is JLvatron and why is he an authority in this matter? His nonsensical logic aside... —Interrobang 22:04, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
If I post to a message board and say what's official and what's not, can I get sourced too? --ItsWalky 22:05, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, that too. - Chris McFeely 22:08, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

JLvatron wrote the script for TFCon's live script reading. Since Hasbro Canada was at the convention, I'm sure he would know whether or not convention material counts as official or not. He acknowledges that his work is not official. Also, he acknowledges that some BotCon script readings do in fact constitute a microcontinuality. However, ones like Bee in the City do not, and the participants even say as much. Therefore, since this wiki prides itself on including just "official" fiction, then according to its own rules "unofficial" stuff should not be included. Otherwise, perhaps the rules need reviewing. --Nightshade83 22:25, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

How does Hasbro Canada being at TFCon or writing TFCon's script make JLvatron intimately knowledgeable about whether the BotCon scripts are official? His supposed explanation is idiotic (and unrelated to either of the above traits); whether BotCon fiction is related to "mass toy lines" or not has no bearing whatsoever on it being official or "cannon" [sic]. I mean, the first BotCon fiction was set in the Beast Wars cartoon. —Interrobang 22:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
"The participants even say as much"? Dude, read Siph's response below. There is some serious lying going on. --ItsWalky 22:45, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

"The last 2 Botcon Scripts and all the written material and stories used for the TF Collector Club is done by M. Sipher and Trent Troop. They both agreed that none of their material is cannon as it's too far fetched and silly and more just to please a small mass of hardcore fans."
Funny, I don't remember 1) writing any BC script readings prior to "Bee in the City" or B) EVER saying "nothing we've ever done is canon", and certainly not for those reasons. So, either years of my life are suddenly deleted from my memory, or someone is spouting some serious, serious, steaming bullshit. G'wan, guess which is more likely. --M Sipher 22:26, 4 July 2008 (UTC)


Maybe mention Bee-imus Prime and Joe Convoy Chromia 16:45, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

They're mentioned in the summary; were you looking for something more specific? -- Greenygal 21:07, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
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