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Having watched this episode and agreeing with the "Worst episode ever" part, while also noting that we don't subscribe to the concept of "NPOV"...are we maybe being a little too hard on the episode? -- SFH 06:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Not particularly. Destroying the Moon with a cannon that can apparently only be operated by Bruticus to just flood a canyon is a plan that deserves all the ire it gets. Interrobang 06:35, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Is it really that much worse than the fortress? -- SFH 06:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
Yes. And that's not even taking into account the sheer hateability of the two human leads. --M Sipher 06:58, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I suppose you have a point, there...okay, just thought I'd bring it up. -- SFH 07:01, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
You know, it's like Wile E. Coyote, the resources they spend on Crazy Schemes would be better spent on just building a power plant that they can get energy from, without all the 'destruction' that forces the Autobots to intervene. Hell, given they wouldn't be bothering anybody, chances are Prime would just leave them alone. --FFN 12:23, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
I dunno... Megatron seems incapable of even simple energy-gathering schemes unless they involve the destruction of something. On at least one occasion, a normally benign manner of generating energy was used by Megatron in a fashion that threatened to destroy the Earth. (ex: Fire in the Sky). -- Dark T Zeratul 14:29, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
We're right. The Giant Purple Griffin was the best he ever did. --FFN 14:39, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

I think Roland and Martin are a reference to Rowan and Martin's Laugh-In. MegaBee 21:30, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Receiving, decrypting...

  • The speech synthesizer is "rewired" so that instead of "synthesizing and transmitting," it "receives and decrypts." And this somehow lets the kids listen in on a conversation being held in the Decepticon base. WHAT?!

Especially given the context... does anybody else find this part, at least, not to be mind-blowingly confusing? It's hideously contrived, to be sure, but I'd posit that "receiving and decrypting" isn't too far off from "listening" - close enough, at least, not to warrant that huge exclamation of disbelief at the end. Thoughts? Caswin 18:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Since there weren't any objections, I changed it to something a little less over-the-top. At which point it was reverted. What? Caswin 18:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Sorry, I just saw a red-link user messing with the funny, which is usually a revert-on-sight thing. Still, the plot point above is indefensibly absurd. "Receives and decrytps" WHAT exactly? Are the 'cons broadcasting their private conversations now?? It's a huge, bizarre stretch (I even thought so when I was 12), and WHAT?? sums it up very succinctly. -- Repowers 19:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
Well, yes... but you could say about as much for half of the episode. Bear in mind that, as the summary says, it's not the Decepticons broadcasting their conversations to be "received and decrypted" - it's going by what Brawl hears, which makes at least a little more sense. The more I think about it, the less an all-capitals bold-and-italics statement like that seems right - not any more, at least, than it would be for all the other myriad problems listed with the episode. Caswin 17:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Navigation boxes

Rather than have two nav boxes on one page, if we're integrating the Japanese cartoon run into the American run (which makes sense), could we get a two-series nav box for the cartoons, much like we have for the comics?

I don't really know if that's possible. While the insertion of new Japanese episodes intp the US run is comparable to the insertion of new UK material into the US comics run, this isn't the only consideration. The Japanese series actually puts the US episodes in a different order. Like... in American continuity, "Fire in the Sky" comes after "Divide and Conquer," and is followed by "SOS Dinobots," but in Japan, it comes after "Masquerade," and is followed by "Fire on the Mountain." How can you show that without having two nav boxes? - Chris McFeely 22:56, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Oh, wait. Snap. You mean like this. Well... bugger, that's an evening wasted! - Chris McFeely 22:58, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Yep, sorry, didn't mean to make that link so hard to find. And yeah, the UK book is all kinds of messy, but the two-series system makes short work of it. Don't despair; it's pretty easy to convert the two boxes into one, once the template is set up. We just need one of the code-knowledgeable folks to set the thing up. -- Repowers 23:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

Caption issue

Okay, that caption on the image of the gagged Elise? I think that's got to go. Aside from just being potentially offensive, it doesn't even make sense given that neither the characters depicted in the image nor the episode's writers are Japanese. --KilMichaelMcC 17:23, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I have to agree. -- SFH 17:38, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I'll go along with that. --FFN 17:54, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Only question is: what do we change it to? --Professor Icepick 17:56, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Not when Japan is responsible for this.--Dynamus Prime 17:57, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Proposed captions:
"Putting leaked spoilers on Teletraan I can have dire consequences."
"The mods block yet another anonymous caption bastard."
"And next we'll get that Kicker punk!"
JW 18:05, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I kinda had in mind something like "This is the light-hearted, end-of-episode comedy beat. No, seriously." --KilMichaelMcC 18:09, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
Hmm, yours is better. JW 18:15, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
I agree. --Professor Icepick 18:21, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
How about... Starscream knows where you've been, girl.--Dynamus Prime 21:59, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Incorrect Animation Error

I have removed the line * "When the Protectobots leave their base, Blades is drawn huge compared to his teammates." the reason he appears much larger is because he is flying, and therefore, closer to the camera.

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