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Are those information officially confirmed? --TX55TALK


I put a delete template. Remove it once the article is fixed. If it doesn't get fixed soon, please delete it.Deceptibot747 20:14, 2 January 2009 (UTC)


Wikipedia claims that this Alice character is a Pretender that stalks Sam. Should we note this accordingly? :(His Wrath falls from the Heavens. :Starshade) 17:34, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Unless we get an official source. Wikipedia often have lots of *ahem* info, just like ROTF-related page on this wiki. --TX55TALK 02:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
Hmm. Do we consider Seibertron as an official source?:(His Wrath falls from the Heavens. :Starshade) 14:16, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
In my opinion, NO, or more specific, it depends.

If we saw this on Seibertron:

Alice is a Pretender.


Micheal Bay said Alice is a Pretender.

No, we don't take it as official.

While this

According to the official website of ROTF (or Empire Magazine or sth else), Alice is a Pretender.


Micheal Bay said Alice is a Pretender. [a link to official source such as the official website or movie magazine or sth similar]

Yes, we take it as official.

--TX55TALK 03:39, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure if even citing the official website of ROTF would make it official or not. I mean, going by what Michael Bay said once, he deliberately made misinformation to prevent leakings of the movie, and that the only thing true about the leaked script was Sam going to college, and yet, it becomes clear that he lied about the misinformation.

I saw the movie and ALIC WAS A TERINATOR!!-- 09:24, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

Well, if what you say is true, then Alice may be the Pretender after all.

Remove the Terminator franchise reference!

While the John Connor joke is quite approporiate, any further mentioning of Series T-X is not. Judging by Alices (in)ability to survive damage, she is nowhere near the 2039 Skynet-made assasin. There is a severe technological gap which leaves Alice losing in virtually every meaning: The materials used in construction of the two and the construction itself seem different: Alice's body is built of tiny bits not very well connected between each other (from what we see in the movie); her "body" seems to have approximately the same weight it looks like it has (Sam was not choked by her entire weight, she jumps like a feather and is thrown back like a normal college girl, suggesting the use of light materials and multiple internal gaps and air pockets. On the other hand, the Terminator's chassis is a solid skeleton with only few elements that have abilities beyond human: arms, transformable into weapons, and joints, which, despite advanced mobility, seem to be extremely tough (enough to sustain anti-tank rockets (shoulder) and multiple 40mm grenades (chest, abdomen, torso) with no damage, while the latter weapon proved very effective against Decepticons). Others are solid composites of "bones" and hydraulics. Contrary to the Decepticon, the chassis is confirmed to weight 150 kg, suggesting the use of very dense materials (stated as nanotube-enhanced ceramics, intead of the already barely penetratable hyperalloys). Their external cover is also very different. Alice is said to use a transscan to mimick an animatronic "doll", meaning she's still patterned after a machine and uses the same imitation technologies as, in example, Frenzy or Wheelie... or Optimus Prime. Skynet-built Infiltrators evolved from rubber-covered brutes like T-600s to big flesh-covered T-800s to smaller machines. While the evolution seemed to reach it's pinnacle (with nearly-untraceble cyborgs like Marcus Wright or, notably, the I-950s), Skynet developed the material known as mimetic polyalloy. It is similar to outer shells of Transformers - except it's built to simulate living tissue. The T-1000 had absolutely no moving parts and couldn't imitate them. T-X uses polyalloy like an adaptive cover for it's skeleton. It touches the target, it records the voice imprint - and it now can copy that person to the point. No terminators ever camouflaged as machines or scenery, except for short-term cover or ambush. The disparity continues in weapons. Alice seems to have a rocket launcher or something like that and two tentacles. Neither of them can damage a walking tank like a T-X. And that tank has more weaponry than an Abrams - 16 variants in total, almost each one deadly. The plasma cannon is powerful enough to deal damage to full-sized Transformers, while the buzz-saw can rip almost anything in little shreads. After all, you wonder why an alien-built robot, powered up by some kind of energy from another dimension, constructed from unique materials, is so weak compared to the "domestic", fusion-powered, ceramic endoskeleton machine, plot purposes disregarded. Question answered, isn't it?

First of all, sign your posts. Second of all, it's a JOKE. Get over it. Xeno the Hedgehog 03:33, December 23, 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, but this wikia starts to seem really messy with all the jokes around. And I'm more used to accurate wikias. I also had an an extra half an hour. And no, all you'll see in the signature is an IP - I don't have logins anywhere where I do not need them. 17:30, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
You're taking this way too seriously. The fact is, there are enough similarities to make the reference worth mentioning. Besides, Animated Swoop is nothing like Gatchaman, but we left that reference in. The whole point of this wiki is that we understand it's OKAY to make fun of something that you like. If you can't laugh at yourself, what can you laugh at? Xeno the Hedgehog 16:14, January 18, 2010 (UTC)