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+ | {{disambig2|the nameless Transformer in Transformers: The Movie|the franchise '''Armada'''|Armada}} |
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+ | [[Image:Cyclonus armada tftf.jpg|thumb|300px|Who cares if the President doesn't exist? He's a great American!]] |
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+ | '''Cyclonus' Armada''' refers to the group of one <small>(or more)</small> seemingly identical robot created by Unicron at the same time as [[Cyclonus (G1)|Cyclonus]]. The only one seen being created was derived from either [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] or [[Bombshell]]. |
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+ | [[Unicron]] creates Cyclonus' Armada from either [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] or [[Bombshell]]. {{storylink|The Transformers: The Movie}} |
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+ | At least four jets of Cyclonus' design take part in an assault on Cybertron, being seen on two occasions. {{storylink|Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5}} |
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⚫ | {{note|It is a rare thing, however, to find this scene taken seriously, given just how rife with errors the whole five-parter is, although you ''might'' have room to argue that if Bombshell were the Armada (see below for that mess), then he ''might'' still be able to clone himself to produce more Armada robots.}} |
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⚫ | However, while the original [[Transformers: The Movie (Marvel Comics)|comic book adaptation]] of the movie followed through with this intention (in terms of art, if not dialogue), the actual movie itself did anything but. Only ''one'' armada robot is shown to be created onscreen, and promptly vanishes from the film mere seconds later, |
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+ | Thanks to his time as Cyclonus' lackey, Skywarp is bitter at Cyclonus. {{storylink|Wreckers: Finale Part II}} |
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+ | A jet identical to Cyclonus was destroyed by a blast of fire-breath from [[Grimlock (G1)|Grimlock]]'s fire-breath. {{storylink|To the Death-And Beyond!}} |
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⚫ | {{note|Although Grimlock did indeed use his fire-breath in this manner in the movie itself, his target was unambiguously Cyclonus himself with [[Galvatron (G1)|Galvatron]] inside. While Cyclonus survived that encounter with little damage, his lookalike in the comic goes kersplodey with equal unambiguity.}} |
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+ | ==Origins== |
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⚫ | The Armada is, in general, a monumental headache for a number of reasons. The basic idea was for Cyclonus to have an group of followers identical to him in design, as a natural counterpart to [[Scourge (G1)|Scourge]]'s [[Sweep]]s. This is evidenced by the description for them given in the movie's script: |
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⚫ | However, while the original [[Transformers: The Movie (Marvel Comics)|comic book adaptation]] of the movie followed through with this intention (in terms of art, if not dialogue), the actual movie itself did anything but. Only ''one'' armada robot is shown to be created onscreen, and promptly vanishes from the film mere seconds later, while the number of Sweeps seems to increase from the mere ''two'' who are shown being created to... well, as many as they need. |
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[[Image:Wreckersskywarpcyclonus.jpg|thumb|left|Oy.]] |
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+ | The Armada's identity prior to re-creation somewhat fraught, tied up as it is with the question of [[Cyclonus (G1)#Who_is_Cyclonus.3F|who Cyclonus is]]. In the finished film, [[Bombshell]] is shown being transformed into (presumably) Cyclonus by Unicron, while [[Skywarp (G1)|Skywarp]] becomes the solitary Armada robot. |
[[Image:Armadadecepticon.jpg|thumb|Sticker from the 2007 'Masterpiece' Skywarp]] |
[[Image:Armadadecepticon.jpg|thumb|Sticker from the 2007 'Masterpiece' Skywarp]] |
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− | Confusion of the matter aside, the vast preponderance of subsequent sources simply agree with the visuals of the recreation scene as depicted in the movie, showing Cyclonus to be created from Bombshell, |
+ | Confusion of the matter aside, the vast preponderance of subsequent sources simply agree with the visuals of the recreation scene as depicted in the movie, showing Cyclonus to be created from Bombshell, meaning that the one-ship Armada{{m-}}if it exists at all{{m-}}was made from Skywarp. |
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− | There are ''some'' pieces of nominally official material that go the other route{{m-}}most prominently, the profiles written by Australian fans for the 2003 [[Madman Entertainment]] DVD release of the movie, later used on several UK [[Metrodome]] DVDs, which state with complete unambiguity that Skywarp became Cyclonus. Generally speaking, no one really takes this seriously{{m-}}not only because ''Transformers'' DVD releases routinely feature [[Unicrons|obviously erroneous information]], but also because some view it as written by a fan who was pushing their interpretation of the matter, and not proof-read by anyone who would dispute it. |
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− | This may all be moot; everyone but Megatron involved in Unicron's re-creation appears to have been ''dead'', so neither Cyclonus nor his Armada should remember their previous existence any more than [[Hook, Line, and Sinker]] do. Notably, both Cyclonus's Marvel Comics ''[[Transformers Universe (Marvel comic)|Transformers Universe]]'' profile and his [[Heroes of Cybertron]] bio actually state that he was forged from the remains of ''several'' Decepticons. |
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==External links== |
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* [http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/tidbits/tftm_script.txt Original script for ''The Transformers: The Movie''] |
* [http://www.physics.ohio-state.edu/~sstoneb/tf/tidbits/tftm_script.txt Original script for ''The Transformers: The Movie''] |
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* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9xbI5a1ilk Galvatron's re-creation scene] — on YouTube |
* [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9xbI5a1ilk Galvatron's re-creation scene] — on YouTube |
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Revision as of 09:09, 7 May 2013
Cyclonus' Armada refers to the group of one (or more) seemingly identical robot created by Unicron at the same time as Cyclonus. The only one seen being created was derived from either Skywarp or Bombshell.
Fiction
Cartoon continuity
Unicron creates Cyclonus' Armada from either Skywarp or Bombshell. The Transformers: The Movie
At least four jets of Cyclonus' design take part in an assault on Cybertron, being seen on two occasions. Five Faces of Darkness, Part 5
Universe: Featuring the Wreckers
Thanks to his time as Cyclonus' lackey, Skywarp is bitter at Cyclonus. Wreckers: Finale Part II
Transformers: The Animated Movie
A jet identical to Cyclonus was destroyed by a blast of fire-breath from Grimlock's fire-breath. To the Death-And Beyond!
Origins
The Armada is, in general, a monumental headache for a number of reasons. The basic idea was for Cyclonus to have an group of followers identical to him in design, as a natural counterpart to Scourge's Sweeps. This is evidenced by the description for them given in the movie's script:
- CYCLONUS is CREATED and then his "armada" of similar, but smaller and similarly colored and clad creatures are formed.
However, while the original comic book adaptation of the movie followed through with this intention (in terms of art, if not dialogue), the actual movie itself did anything but. Only one armada robot is shown to be created onscreen, and promptly vanishes from the film mere seconds later, while the number of Sweeps seems to increase from the mere two who are shown being created to... well, as many as they need.
Consequently, opinions differ on the Armada's actual "existence", with some arguing that since Cyclonus' personal army was dropped in production and removed from the film immediately after being introduced, its inclusion is little more than an error, and should be ignored.
Who is the Armada?
The Armada's identity prior to re-creation somewhat fraught, tied up as it is with the question of who Cyclonus is. In the finished film, Bombshell is shown being transformed into (presumably) Cyclonus by Unicron, while Skywarp becomes the solitary Armada robot.
Confusion of the matter aside, the vast preponderance of subsequent sources simply agree with the visuals of the recreation scene as depicted in the movie, showing Cyclonus to be created from Bombshell, meaning that the one-ship Armada—if it exists at all—was made from Skywarp.