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The only other one I can think of is Ravage (twice, with Panther and Shadow Panther), unless we're counting character sheet swaps like Nightstick and Fracas. Prowl II, perhaps. —Interrobang 12:13, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I could live with Prowl II, but even then, I don't think there are enough of these to really warrant a category. Isn't the bottom limit six or seven? -hx 15:27, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Give it a week, I think there might be a few more knocking around continuity. If none turn up by then than I'd be okay with 'cat deletion.
(I will say, all the toys with two identities couresy of Energon do not belong here.) -Derik 15:39, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Yeah - what about, say, the various Universe guys who are just "alternate" versions of existing dudes - I'm thinking here specifically of Lil' Lemony Spychanger RiD Prime, who was originally meant to be regular old RiD Prime (I presume) but then got retconned into being the Prime of a dimension where everyone was just Spychanger-sized?) I'm not sure that would count, necessarily... -hx 17:06, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Considering "teenyverse" is their FIRST and ONLY canon characterization... no, I'd say they don't count. --M Sipher 17:25, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The lower size limit for categories isn't a hard limit -- when there's an unusual or curious category like this one we sometimes let them slide. --Steve-o 04:14, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

BM Tankor's toy was used to represent Quake's Vehicon drones in Wreckers #1. That should probably fit here. --ItsWalky 17:37, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


Does Legion count? --FortMax 17:41, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure not. That wasn't any pre-existing toy. Find me a Windcharger/Decepticharge with a Megatron head and we'll re-evaluate. ;) --ItsWalky 17:54, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The heads aren't that different. They just made the helmet slightly more polygonal. --FortMax 18:22, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
The heads are much more different than that. One is a Windcharger head, one is unmistakably a G1 Megatron head, including the distinctive brow, plus entirely new greebles on the sides of the helmet. Legion's altmode was also altered. --ItsWalky 18:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
It was? *looks* Oh, good catch Walky.
(This is a much narrower category than 'characters incarnations based on nonexistant toys', bit I feel like it's unique enough to be worth tracking.) -Derik 18:20, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

RiD Optimus Prime

Does the Cybertron redeco of RiD Optimus Prime count? The package bio said it was just Cybertron Prime in a new body, but the comic used the colors for RiD Prime. Cybertron Blurr? —Interrobang 19:38, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

IU think yes on RiD Prime, no on Blurr? (Wasn't Blur reassigned by his own tech-spec or something? I feel like that shouldn't count...) -Derik 20:55, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


Do Prowl, Ironhide, Silverbolt from BW Magnaboss count? IIRC, they should be different characters when the toy just came in to the market. But later IDW reassigned them in to the G1 characters. --TX55 06:30, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

They had absolutely no personal information, so no, they don't count. —Interrobang 07:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)