I don't know how I feel about various Fort Maxes and Metroplexes being listed in this category. Yes, some of their documentation refers to them as cities, but... come on. They are obviously more like bases or HQs. --Steve-o 02:22, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- By that argument there's never been a TF city. Metroplex is pretty explicitly Autobot City in most places so I'd say he's definite fit. Fort Max was never portrayed so in fiction, so he's wishier, but personally I'd still put him in if he's called a city anywhere official. --ZacWilliam 02:25, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- There has never been a TF city, yes. That is correct. There are many cities in Transformers fiction including Autobot City, but, I argue, none of them are Transformers. Transformers that have been called "cities" are very much NOT ACTUALLY CITIES. I realize that we like to "believe" official text when it says things, but this is a rare case where, in my opinion, the official text is plainly inaccurate/hyperbolic. --Steve-o 04:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Yet Trypticon was formed out of the heart of a Human city. He's a SMALL city-center, admittedly, if the towers on his back are big skyscrapers he's a couple city blocks- mostly of low stuff.
- But there are cities... like that. I mean- how are you defining 'city'? Minneapolis/St Paul is one of the 20 biggrst cities in America. If you start going to the 100 biggest, #99 is gonan start looking a lot like Fort Max-- at least in terms of scale for humans.
- 'Autobot City,' for all its name, was scaled like a rather large frontier fort or freehold relative to the Autobots. Clearly the term 'city' is relative. -Derik 05:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- Even a small city is more than the city-center where it has a handful of tall buildings. A group of tall buildings is not a city. It is a tiny portion of a city. --Steve-o 15:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
- There has never been a TF city, yes. That is correct. There are many cities in Transformers fiction including Autobot City, but, I argue, none of them are Transformers. Transformers that have been called "cities" are very much NOT ACTUALLY CITIES. I realize that we like to "believe" official text when it says things, but this is a rare case where, in my opinion, the official text is plainly inaccurate/hyperbolic. --Steve-o 04:45, 4 July 2007 (UTC)