Talk:Revenge of the Fallen (film)

We know that it wants to be done, we know that people are signed on and that there are already new characters being thought-up, but we don't have official confirmation that there will be a sequel. -- Hunter-113 12:09, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

On the other hand, considering the take, they'd be nuts not to do a sequel.

I think this article should stay. It seems obvious that they will make a transformers 2, after how well the first one has done they'd never pass a chance up to make a sequal. This article gives good information on what is known so far about the possible t2 and as it furthers in developement this article will be the perfect spot to place the updates. ---Guest

Scary enough, Moviefone has a listing for "Transformers 2", with a 2010 "release date". --Terrocon Blot 01:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Given that an admittedly somewhat tentative release date has already been announced, I'd say we certainly should have a TF2 article- however, I also have to admit that this current version needs a lot of work.--TVsGrady 19:44, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

I think my sources are accurate, but I unfortunately do not remember where I heard all this stuff I put on. The RIBFIR Dude 16:54, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Then don't put your bullshit in, Kremzeek. —Interrobang 16:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Who is he? Why do you all think I'm him? No one has ever given me a link to this guy so I dont know who he is! Tell me who is Kremzeek? The RIBFIR Dude 17:36, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I say move this article to the 'Transformers 2: Revenge of the Fallen' page. The title is more percise plus I incorrectly thought the article 'Transformers 2' was about the 'Transformers: Generation Two' line. - Zadok Rox 17:44, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

The Teaser
Please put this on the page : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnLk4jXPn1E This is the trailer for Revenge, official. Posted by MVT

Toys
Shouldn't we update all the toy sections on the recurring characters since they're already out in most stores? TransRyan 02:09, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Citations Needed
For the alleged facts that were already in the article, it would be best if we could have references for them, to avoid this page becoming rampant speculation and rumormongering. So, I added a bunch of "Citation Needed". JW 20:06, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Man, you are evil. (I'm assuming you erased what I wrote.) Everything I had in there was logical. For example, I learned about the aircraft carrier on Wikipedia, and saw Starscream flying into space on the TRansformers DVD. I am learning the whole wiki business one step at a time, and currently, I have no idea how to make citations.
 * Please learn how to make edits properly before making edits. Practice on your user page, and study how existing pages were made.  The wiki itself is not a training ground.  Edits that aren't up to our standards will be reverted.
 * Also, please study the history of any given page before making wrong accusations about who edited what.
 * Also also, please sign your posts to talk pages. JW 22:23, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Writers Strike stuff
With the strike over, and no particular evidence it slowed the development of TF2 much, I'm thinking the whole paragraph about the strike could just be cut. Five years from now, it would just say something like, "A year and a half before TF2 was released, there was a multi-month writers strike in Hollywood, which didn't have much effect on the movie." That's pretty uninteresting. Opinions? JW 19:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I dunno. I do think it's interesting that Bay was so fired up before the strike that he just forged ahead on movie prep without even having a script.--RosicrucianTalk 19:59, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

I think you should rephrase that--He did have a script, but it was more of the ouline they completed after TWO WEEKS of writing, and he turned it into a script..with some 'michael bay humor' added..whatever that means..and they've even said they're not sure if they can undo or fix certain things, so they are seeing what is too far along to fix and what isnt..and what of this 'realease date' of 2010? is it true?--Chipmonk329

Transformers 2 script leak..or so it says...I want to see if you think this is true or not: http://transformerslive.blogspot.com/2007/10/transfomers-2-leaked-script.html ---Chipmonk329 Clearly a fake-contains no mention the character "The Fallen" whatsoever. Plus, Michael Bay said he wanted Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen to work on it's own, with no "To be concluded" ending, like in Pirates Of The Carribean II and III, and in Matrix Reloaded and Matrix Revolutions. Jim Java 22:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

ROTF
This is NOT offically confirmed, so it shouldn't be listed here. Yes the name was registered a few weeks back, as were three or four others. Until Paramount or Hasbro or someone officially releases it, shouldn't be mentioned here. The site that released this is no more offical then the one that said we'd be getting Devastator, and we're not putting that up. User:GWolfv2 16.46 June 5th
 * I assumed Don Murphy was official enough, but okay. --Thylacine 2000 16:33, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Confirmation from Hasbro --KilMichaelMcC 17:29, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Don Murphy is as reliable a source as Michael Bay on these things. Hasbro on the other hand...thanks for thatKilMichael User:GWolfv2

Why is The Link from a key character to megatron? I Thought it would be starscream. After all, he isn't dead, and there is the fact that they even had an escape sequence.

On the other Hand Fallen=Unicron which could me Galvatron.

Wait, wait, wait... When was "Revenge of the Fallen" confirmed? Because I've heard nothing about that name whatsoever (maybe because my PC is being a bitch and won't bring up TFW2005).--AWT88 00:59, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * There is a hyperlink to Hasbro somewhere. Hint: It's in this section. —Interrobang 01:04, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

More details confirmed(?)
What do you think? Sound trustworthy, or should we call BS on it for the moment? -- Cyberlink420 16:41, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Those come form a supposed leak, and I think we're avoiding those User:GWolfv2 17.47 June 6th

For the cast, can we confirm more Autobots than just Prime? People have spotted the vehicles for Rachet, Ironhide, Bumblebee, hell even Jazz's vehicle (even though Bay said "No Jazz in TF2". And now pics from the set and casting call are supporting Arcee as one of the characters as well with a holo-driver.  Of course these aren't confirmed by producers or directors, but they at the set so could we?  Pretty please?  These are just things that I've seen over the past week on the interwebs; so what do y'all think?--AWT88 03:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Jetfire has been confirmed as a SR-71 Blackbird. Felancer Prime 14:15, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Given how character names changed during production of the first film, it is a bit premature to say that "Jetfire" is confirmed. --KilMichaelMcC 14:25, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmm, you bring up a good point. But reguardless, someone has been confirmed, and that someone's altmode is an SR-17 Blackbrid. The name is currently Jetfire, but it's not set in stone. I guess that's how I should've worded it. Felancer Prime 05:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * We will not add information to these pages based on snuck photographs. --ItsWalky 05:43, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
 * What exactly is you definition of "snuck photos"?--AWT88 04:12, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * Hint: if you think there's a chance these photos might qualify as 'snuck,' then they do. -Derik 04:25, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
 * If I was trying to spread misinformation about my movie, I think the first thing I would do is have every vehicle possible driving around the set, including an Ice Cream Van, a Milk Float, A Steam Roller, a bumper car, a roller coaster and a Clown Car, just so I could spend the next week laughing that the fan speculation on these "new characters". Considering we know misinformation is being spread, vehicles seen on or near the sets is pretty obviously not all going to actually appear in the actual movie... Just so you know, the Milk float would so be the red hearing, and actually turn out to be Kup in the actual movie...Shadow Mask Prime 21:21, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

Comfirmed list
This is a list of robots that were mentioned on wikipedia so far


 * Optimus prime
 * Bumblebee
 * Ratchet
 * Ironhide
 * Arcee
 * Starscream
 * Barricade
 * Soundwave
 * Jetfire

Scorponok wasn't seen dead nor mentioned dead but he is uncomfirmed to appear in the 2nd Movie. 82.17.140.55 15:35, 13 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia alone is not a verifiable source. --Sntint 16:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

Forgive me, but was Blackout killed in the first movie? I can't get ahold of it right now. If he wasn't wouldn't he be back.
 * He's dead. --FFN 14:16, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Hasbro's confirmed Sideswipe, Ravage and Megatron, shouldn't that be added?

Why are Skywarp, Thundercracker, Knockout, and Dead End listed among the characters? I've found no evidence whatsoever to suggest that any of them will appear onscreen. Xeno the Hedgehog 01:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't know about Knockout or Dead End, but I am fully ready to believe in Skywarp and Thundercracker, only because I saw those 3 F-22s, which COULD just be 3 F-22s, but.....I love Skywarp, so until the movie comes out, I'm all for fantasizing about a live-action teleporting epic guy who never really does anything.....Whoops, rambling....Anyway, I'm not sure about anything, but if all 3 Seekers appear, I'm going to squeal like a little girl. That probably doesn't help you.--KaotikusNemesis 00:46, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Anyways, since there was no link to an outside source, I removed them from the list. Xeno the Hedgehog 01:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

No '2' in the title, according to Roberto Orci
Hey guys, it was reported that Paramount has informed the Transformerslive blogsite that there is no '2' in the sequel title, making the current official title Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen, and it was discovered that Hasbro has registered 'transformersrevengeofthefallen.com'. Additionally, Roberto Orci confirmed there is no 2 in the title. So do we move this article or what? --FFN 06:26, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Bumblebee and Starscream
Isn't it safe to put Bumblebee and Starscream in the "confirmed characters" list. For one, Robert Orci himself said that Starscream will have more dialogue and that Bumblebee is returning. (Especially Bumblebee since I don't think Sam would trade in his kickass transforming alien car for an identical, normal one.)

http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12448

06:55, 25 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Yes it is safe... 13:41, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * What we see in photos from on the set is not permissible information. --ItsWalky 14:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * But confirmation from Orci is. Felancer Prime 22:11, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

What?
When was Wheeljack confirmed? 12:58, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Nevermind... 13:01, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Simmons
My mom (I do have one, you know) says she saw something on Sci-Fi (TV commercial or website I'm not sure) a while ago that said Agent Simmons would return for the sequel, and I've also seen the actor who plays him (don't know the name) in pics from the filming. Think the article should mention it? Not Steve 14:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Not until there's an official announcement. If someone can corroborate the commercials or broadcast material on Sci-Fi with visual evidence, that will do nicely.  Barring that, we need something from a source at Paramount or Hasbro, such as an announcement at a panel, a news item on an official movie-related web site, a direct quote on a TV show, etc.--Apcog 14:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay since I'm not sure where she heard it I guess we'll have to wait. Not Steve 14:55, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Dinobots aren't in the sequel
I put it on the page and the admins keep deleting it! its confirmed! i even provided a link like it said. why does it keep getting deleted?
 * Maybe the Admins only wan't to see the characters IN the film. --Hepathos 16:17, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

The Fallen
The Fallen has been confirmed to be a character in the movie. (http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=17412) Secretcode 19:14, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
 * No. You severely misread that article. Felancer Prime 00:46, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Did I? http://tfarchive.com/community/showpost.php?p=619464&postcount=219 Secretcode 01:08, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, Furman states there in discussing The 13 that Revenge of the Fallen is using the Fallen character from the 13. IDW has the Revenge screenplay, and Furman himself is writing the Revenge adaptation. Plus, as secretcode linked, Nevermore pretty much never gets things wrong when provided with the information at hand, unless the information itself is wrong. --FFN 03:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but MTV has ALSO confirmed that The Fallen is the main villian, also confirming Arcee and reconfirming Soundwave-- http://splashpage.mtv.com/2008/07/28/exclusive-transformers-2-prequel-comic-gives-inside-scoop-on-2009-movie/

"“[We're going to] explore the background of The Fallen — the main villain of the movie — as well as expand on the ‘Reign of Starscream’ story that we’re doing and tie everything in to what this next movie is going to be,” explained writer Chris Mowry."

"Two of those fan-favorite characters are Soundwave and Arcee, both of whom find themselves recruited for the sequel."Secretcode 22:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Aaaand it seems like the article was edited and now only talks about Soundwave. Huh.--Nevermore 22:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * And now all references to a character named The Fallen and IDW having a copy of the script have been removed as well.--Nevermore 19:32, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Ironhide
why did u take him out of the confirmed characters list?? so youre saying that Ironhide isnt going to be in the movie? Despite all the sightings of his alternate form and set? huh?
 * That isn't an official confirmation.--RosicrucianTalk 18:05, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, just because there's a black truck in the movie doesn't mean it's Ironhide. It could be a different Transformer alltogether, like Kup, or it might not even BE a Transformer; it could just be a truck. -- Semysane 22:03, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * What happens when the pictures from the sets have an Autobot or Decepticon logo on it? --75.181.69.137 00:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * ...then that logo shows up in filming?
 * Seriously- our policy is "no info from leaked, snuck or stolen sources." Why would the fact the snuck photos have clear logos on them make any difference? -Derik 00:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Yeah but its kinda of codinence its the same truck as Ironhide, here i got proof

http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/set-photos-from-transformers-2-at-edwards-air-force-base-new-vehicle-revealed/13533/   go to that link
 * As we've said, pictures don't matter. Jazz bit the dust in the first movie yet the Soltice was seen here and there. Doesn't remove the fact that he's dead. We'll add Ironhide to the list once Orci, Bay or whoever else actually says "Ironhide is in the movie yay!". Until then, quit arguing. --Detour 03:11, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "codinence"? What?--FFN 08:47, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Coincidence? No, but considering they had Told us they're Spreading False Info On Purpose, it is just as likely those vehicles are parked there To Confuse People..... see what I said above somewhere..... Any pictures we get, without OFFICIAL confirmation, are likely to be the film crew messing with our heads. Sure, it is pretty likely Ironhide will be in the film, but We're not adding without Actual Confirmation.Shadow Mask Prime 16:05, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Sorry i am arguing, but just asking? I havent heard Starscream being confirmed.
 * Starscream has been mentioned in several IDW interviews. The sequel's prequel comic in specific mentioned wanting to focus on him because he was gonna be in the movie. -Derik 22:27, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

Guess who's back?
And he's a tank. Awesome.

Also, the Fallen's been re-confirmed. -- Cyberlink420 19:39, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, because IGN parroting back what CHUD claimed makes it such reliable confirmations. --Detour 19:52, 8 August 2008 (UTC)


 * I've been trying to put an image of megatron as a Tank on his page but I can't because every time I put it on it comes out as a blank--Wolf master 19:42, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah, about that. Please stop trying to add images to those pages, because official images have yet to be released. -- SFH 22:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Devastator
I was cruising Facebook the other day, and, as part of the Revenge of the Fallen promotion, became a fan on the Decepticon page. That's when I noticed this.

I don't know if an image on a Facebook page, even one supposedly created by the movie staff, is "official" enough to be considered a source, so I'm wondering whether or not it should be mentioned in the article. Personally, I think it looks a little too much like G1 Devastator... but you never know. --Martonimos 07:18, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Fan image (confirmed as such at least a kajillion times at this point), we have no proof the Facebook page was even done by the movie people or just a random fan who wanted to give them a page (I'm leaning towards the latter, see the image labeled Bonecrusher for proof), etc. etc. etc. etc. --Detour 07:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * All right. Sorry for being n00bish. --Martonimos 18:49, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
 * At least you asked politely instead of insisting it be posted or just posting it yourself without checking. Two points in your favor.  Next serve.--Apcog 19:46, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be a nervous fanboy about this or noobish (not really one, but whatever), but I jsut seen on TFW2005.com that Devastator has been confirmed as a character in RotF. It goes on to say that -- Seven construction vehicles merge to form Devastator - Devastator has lots of upper body strength, like a gorilla - Not just green, some of the vehicles are red and yellow - The previous Long Haul concept art by Josh Nizzi is legit (if you haven't seen it, it looks pretty good). Again, not being a nervous fanboy or noobish, the only reason that I'm not posting it on the article is because I have no idea where they got the "confirmed" news. If you want to check it out, it's on the main page. Tell me what you think, just don't be too harsh.--AWT88 20:30, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * If there was a source of sorts somewhere we might've added it, but it's completely unsourced so we're treating it like a rumor. --Detour 20:36, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah I can understand that, because that's exactly what I see it as. I messaged the guy who posted it, but haven't heard anything back on where he heard it.  When he does, then if it's a reputable source (writer, director, producer, etc.) then I'll probably post it.--AWT88 20:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Who knows? The source would pretty much have to post it himself somehow... because the poster just saying, say, "Oh, Scott Farrar told me." or something still isn't concrete evidence. --Detour 21:00, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * AWT88, please think logically, instead of trying to legitimise this news so it can be posted here. Tim Formas wasn't going to post his source in the news post (because his source obviously doesn't want to be identified), why would he tell some random person via PM? And even if he did, it would be impossible to verify. --FFN 22:22, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay, I get what you're saying. If I was trying to legitimize it, I was unaware I was doing it.  I can understand that he probably (almost a guaranty) wouldn't want to post anything to some random poster just so same random poster could put it on another site.  I never took this as concrete evidence because it never came from a producer, writer, director, etc., just something I seen and tried to find out to see what others would think; maybe help out some.  I can still hold out hope; nothing's probably going to happen, but I can still hope I get a response.--AWT88 03:44, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Basically, there are VERY few sources we can accept as legitimate and official; they're ALL the kind where there's absolutely no doubt about it. If it can be called into question, it has no place here.  Press releases, official web sites, officially released documentaries, creator interviews... that's about it.  Anything else is right out. -- Repowers 04:19, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

Rumor category?
Should there be a rumor catergory, for rumors like the one about wheel jack being the Saab?
 * No. --M Sipher 04:44, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

I don't mean to be prick but why not?
 * Because they're rumors, this wiki is about facts, unless it's something really old which depends solely on speculation, like Cyclonus's Armada. --Detour 04:48, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Alright, thanks.

I have one! In the final scene optimus will have been almost killed and is lying on his death bed megatron has escaped and now posseses the matrix even though he doesnt know how to controll it. Starscream has been killed but his minions on cybertron are coming. The fallen has been defeated by both the autobots and decepticons although he has killed many autobots and bumblee bee has been damaged and has fallen into a coma like state. In a scene at the end of the film Unicron will be seen emerging from a blackhole his shadowy form appears on saturn!

Stuff that we know
Ya' know guys, there are tons of information we know about the movie, that most of the scenes takes place in China, Icecreamtron, the new concept cars, there will be multiple storylines: shouldn't we add them to the article, like under Trivia or something? --Hepathos 01:32, 1 September 2008 (UTC)

No. All unofficial GWolfv2
 * Has any of this stuff you claim we "know" about the movie been revealed through OFFICIAL SOURCES? Or is it based on paparrazzi photos snapped on the set, illegally leaked inside materials and friend-of-a-friend rumors?--Nevermore 08:10, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * The only stuff we know that you just suggested in your post are that filming took place in Penn., the Audi R8 is going to be in the movie (possibly a character), there is going to be a (some?) motorcycle character(s), and the stuff on the page. Everything else is pure speculation. I've been told that quite a few times on this page.--AWT88 16:26, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Which is why this is going to be a painful few months on the movie articles.--RosicrucianTalk 16:32, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Let's just write a javascript to divert any IP-addresses trying to edit this article to the Wikia article. -Derik 05:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Give them a bunch of Pop Ups saying stuff like "What is your OFFICIAL Source?" "Are You Sure this is Official?" "Unofficially released Photos from the Set ARE NOT OFFICAL!", X50.Shadow Mask Prime 13:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
 * O-o-o-o-o-o-or, we could just lock editing from new or unregistered members. Felancer Prime 05:52, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Ironhide and ratchet are in the movie for the last time
I keep trying to add them to the list but they keep getting deleted! their vehicle modes where spotted on set so im guessing thats official?72.192.48.119 15:25, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * "Spotted on the set" isn't really official. Those photographs weren't taken by sanctioned press, they were passers-by or campers who got lucky glimpses.  Sorry! --Sntint 15:33, 6 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Also they could have been purposely placed on the set to give people this idea as a Red Heering.Shadow Mask Prime 13:09, 12 September 2008 (UTC)


 * tonne of crap, they are in it!!!

Someone needs to update
Using information from the following link, someone needs to add all this stuff in. http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/news/spoiler-filled-empire-magazine-image-descriptions/14843/ Primus1101 22:10, 30 December 2008 (UTC)User:Primus1101

NO!!
They didn't say anything about Optimus Prime not being at the Pyramids! Where did this come from?

What
No Megs. What the slag are you doing Micheal Bay. He better be in the third movie.

Don't you remember seeing him in the trailer? Of course he's in it, fool. Goht4Ever Goht4Ever Talk 19:46, 28 June 2009

The Fallen
Has anyone been to the movie website lately if not go there it has ap icture of what I think is the Fallen --Wolf master 20:48, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Look here as well --Wolf master 20:54, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

The Aerialbots
I don't believe this is confirmed yet, but I recall something saying the five Aerialbots would be in the movie to match the Constructicons with Superion.


 * I doubt it, given that the Superion toy being sold under the movie line is a repaint of the Energon Superion Maximus toy - if you're going to showcase two gestalts, why not make a new toy out of them? Jeep!


 * Ah well. It's a hope. I also remember reading something (again, possibly some of Michael Bay's false leaks) that said there would be at least 40 robots total.

The Fallens?
I realize The Fallen is a separate character, but I saw this (obviously unofficial) picture, and I just wanted to point out that Jazz and Megatron are dead, therefore 'fallen'. http://powet.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/thefallens.jpg

Argh!

 * Argh!

We really need somebodies to clean up the whole article because there are way too many rumors and trash in the content. (I can't be the cleaner because I don't know which is true which is false.) -- TX55   TALK  15:06, 26 January 2009 (UTC)

Superbowl tv spot
Superbowl tv spot - it looks awesome!--Wolf master 18:20, 1 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Shit. Goddamn Paramount. They don't want the trailer shown. It was an amazing one, though. You know, I have some scenes in the trailer. Shall I upload some important ones, like the shot with Ravage? :(His Wrath falls from the Heavens. :Starshade) 23:15, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

The Ancient visitors
We all know about smas discovery but i have a theroy: Mabe these ancient cybertronians where the first 13 transformers to visit earth?-207.241.247.1 14:43, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, it is just a theory and not confirmed news. It would be nice, though. (I wonder if Vector Prime might get to be in a movie? Or better yet, Unicron!)--Tempest59 16:39, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Well Orci said in the third instalment he whould like to add Unicron for "The fan's sake" because the Fallen is in this movie and he is unicron's servant.Also why do you thnik those vistors came in the first place it makes sense like primus sent the 13 to teach the hummans cybertronian technology?-207.241.247.1 17:18, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Second Trailer!
I hope they don't delete this... but I stumbled across the second official trailer, albeit in poor quality. This trailer proves that Skorponok is indeed still alive. I put it on the 'external link' section of the main article.


 * Can someone put this on the video section please?--Wolf master 19:53, 14 February 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, leak video is not allowed here. -- TX55   TALK  14:26, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Hugo weaving
Look at this.--Wolf master 12:57, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

About Alice
I had to wonder: if we don't consider Alice being a Decepticon Pretender an officially confirmed news, why is her name under the Decepticon category? I suggest doing something, like moving her name to Others category and explaining that her nature is unconfirmed. :(His Wrath falls from the Heavens. :Starshade) 12:26, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Ha, thanks for noticing. ;-D Who knows when the thing slipped in? -- TX55   TALK  12:43, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

His name is Jetfire
Wait a tick: why is there a link to the Jetfire (Movie) page if there's a Jetfire (ROTF) page? And, furthermore, why is there a Jetfire (ROTF) page? Shouldn't they be merged or something? TEMPEST! Talk 17:31, 24 March 2009


 * The later is separated from the former since the two character seem to be quite different. -- TX55   TALK  00:51, 25 March 2009 (UTC)


 * But why was there a link to the Jetfire (Movie) page? I had to change it myself. TEMPEST! Talk 8:32, 25 March 2009

Jolt
The link under Autobots for Jolt goes to the Decepticon toy's page, not the Autobot's.

The Revenge of the Fallen
Hallo please do you know what the title of the movie means? Is it The revenge of those transformers who were defeated and thus are fallen or it is revenge of the Transformer called the Fallen, I think the second but in our translation of the movie it is the first and it seems wrong to me. Thanks.--ScorpiO 10:33, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * The second. :) -- TX55   TALK  11:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * That reminds me of the Korean translation of the movie. It's been translated to what literally means 'The Loser Strikes Back" which is a classic example of how the Korean movie-importing people make titles. (Oh, for your information, Terminator 4: Salvation was changed to 'Terminator: The Beginning of the Future War...' Yeah.) :P :(And the Heavens shall tremble. :Starshade) 17:42, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

New scene + More short clips: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vbb9z0R1ptc&feature=channel_page

By MVT

What about Blackout?
In the 'New scene + More short clips' from above, wasn't Blackout in there somewhere? I also noticed he wasn't on the list. Should I add him in? --TEMPEST! Tempest Talk 21:16, 21 April 2009

That isn't Blackout - that's Grindor, an almost identical Decepticon apparently pieced together by Scorponok using Blackout's remains. With that, can I just say that somebody keeps changing the cast list by deleting Grindor and replacing him with Blackout, which they probably shouldn't do because it's incorrect. --Goht4Ever Goht4Ever Talk 19:38, 28 June 2009


 * Until we receive word from an official source, we can neither confirm nor deny that the helicopter decepticon was Blackout or Grindor. Xeno the Hedgehog 02:09, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

This needs to be mentioned...
They moved the release date up to June 24th, but I can't remember what Wikipedia used as their source for that info, so I can't add it in!!! Can someone please help me with that?TFgirl 00:57, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey everyone I've been looking around for a while and found the Transformers clip on You Tube with a great analysis and screenshots afterward showing stuff that you may have missed (Scapel, for example, is seen torturing Sam a bit more though that flashes by in a second or two).

Link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNGrnAmmtNg

Also Blackout is back. Check out 0:44 roughly you can see him before Optimus goes flying. --24.208.233.64 22:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I thought we all knew all of them by now. :Starshade 04:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)

Hey, i'm not a user but just want to say that we need to add a couple of things to the Decepticon list: Ejector the Toaster and another mystery 'bot. They, along with Wheelie, are animated by the Allspark fragment, and that, apparently, is what Bumblebee was shooting at, and i found this out from Sears's website on June 10, 2009, as they had a sneak peak at the comic adaptation.
 * We'll add them when the movie is released. Comic adaptations are never completely accurate, and neither are novelizations. Xeno the Hedgehog 02:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

Wheelie
can you please put wheelie on the autobot list?-207.241.247.1 14:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I think we should either do that or move Jetfire to Decepticon list. Both are known (officially confirmed?) to change sides from Decepticon to Autobot.:Starshade 01:06, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

ET trailer
1. Blackout appears again 2. Sam goes to colledge, but gets visions of transformers relics 3. Optimus says there is a lot that hasn;t been revealed. 4. Sam says this isn't his war,s optimus replies it will be soon. 5. Giant mouth (unicron? nearly eats optimus 6. same symbols appear at pyramids.


 * Heke?

.....I mean, "What?"-KaotikusNemesis 13:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * It was A trailer shown on Entertainment Tonight. That us a list of stuff that happens.

Dead Link
The YouTube video of the new trailer is a dead link. I'd fix it, but I do not know how to do so. Here's a good one for someone with the appropriate technical knowledge: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH3STHC63hU Not Stevecomplain hereThe Big Book 19:15, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Two things
First: why do we need a redirect to a Franchise page when there's nothing on it but the movie?

Second: I was just surfing You Tube and found this--not sure if it's worth posting or not and the official trailer (I think it was) is offline.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1d9ySuW5bx8

Demolishor...
Why isn't he listed UNDER Constructicons? His toy bio, and Sideways', for that matter, state him as such...Oh, and the toys are out. Yay!....--KaotikusNemesis 15:37, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree. Unfortunately certain anonymous users persistently refuse to admit that "Scavenger" might not be the correct name. Xeno the Hedgehog 19:53, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

MTV Clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awb8gUwtsPo

This should be posted I think, it's the MTV Awards. Took me a few minutes to find. This one is actually good quality and it's not a bunch of clips we've seen already. (Ok we've seen fragments but this gives us a better look at the overall scene).

Title
Does the title "Revenge of the Fallen" mean revenge of the dead people coming back to life, or the revenge of the Fallen character? Teh lolz! BPL  23:04, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

At this point, the answer is unknown. User:Black feather


 * Considering the characters that have been confirmed thus far, I would say both interpretations are accurate. Xeno the Hedgehog 00:30, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Why do we keep Grindor article and Blackout when obviously there can be only one deatle Grindor or black out on the least ( AS Grindor is only a clone)
 * First of all, sign your posts. Secondly, what's a "deatle"? Third, learn to spell. And to answer your question, we keep the article because they are separate characters. Xeno the Hedgehog 05:37, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

New Trailer
I just saw a new trailer. It was mostly footage from inside the Witwicky family's house, appliances transforming and shooting at each other, Sam screaming "BUMBLEBEE!!!", Bumblebee bursting from the Garage and shooting, and Judy Witwicky exclaiming "I cannot live with this psychotic alien in my garage!" as Bumblebee walks back toward the wreckage thereof. Xeno the Hedgehog 04:52, 15 June 2009 (UTC)

Error?
On the page, 'Destiny', 'Wanted', 'Fate' and 'Mystery' are all the same. But I'm not sure which is which. --Vexza

The Fallen is called Megs master, but the Deceptions master is Megs and he serves no one, but he allied with The Fallen.4DJONG 11:54, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

No - the Fallen is Megatron's master, not his ally. Goht4Ever Goht4Ever Talk 19:48, 28 June 2009

True Facts From Watching In Uk
1st John Turturro is not Jetfire it is Mark Ryan it says so in the Credits

2nd Jolt is not voiced by anyone he never transforms he is always in volt mode

3rd Mark Ryan does not voice Bumblebee he does not speak the entire movie, exept through the radio like the first movie.

4th Andre Sogliuzzo voices Mudflap

will these be changed


 * They will be changed after the film is released in North America this coming Tuesday. Until then, no spoilers allowed. And please, remember to sign your post with four ~s next time. Xeno the Hedgehog 00:35, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

What Do We Do About Obama, Swine Flu, and Recession?
In the movie, it was mentioned president Obama was moved to a bunker when the military declared the situation code delta. How does this affect the movie continuity and specific dating of events, including interference with real world politics? In Simmons' butchery, they go into the freezer where there are pigs, and Sam makes a comment about the swine flu. At college when Alice is trying to manipulate Sam in bed, he tries to change the topic by mentioning the economic recession (or at least I think it was there, but it was definitely mentioned somewhere when Sam was trying to change the subject of conversation). Such tie ins to the real world never occurred before in the prequel. --Darth shohet 01:33, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Reception
The reviews are in. Ouch.

It made $417 million in less than a week, the critics can go **** themselves


 * First, anything can make money, doesn't make it good. Bay's work is uniformly awful, always. Secondly, SIGN YOUR TALK PAGE COMMENTS! Jeep! 00:23, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I concur, however I firmly believe that only the viewer can decide what's best for themselves; That's why I don't read movie reviews for any reason other than the screenshots included with them. Xeno the Hedgehog 03:57, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * I enjoyed it simply because I love Soundwave, and the fact that the Matrix was involved. And Alice was ALMOST as hot as Mikaela I like stuff asploding. I'm kinda irked that Soundwave was a satellite the WHOLE DAMN TIME, and that Sideways died really quick, but hey, at least Megs' head is SLIGHTLY more bucket-like than before. Lol, I've spent $145 on ROTF toys already.--KaotikusNemesis 14:45, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

Removed contents
Current information includes:
 * Producer Tom DeSanto has envisioned a storyline introducing the Constructicons.
 * Writers Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman are recruiting Ehren Kruger to help them write the screenplay. Michael Bay and producers Don Murphy, Tom DeSanto, and Lorenzo di Bonaventura are also returning.
 * The producers expect that with a bigger budget and the special effects worked out, the Transformers will have a larger role and more screen time.
 * According to the 2008 ShoWest edition of Dolby News, the film will be in 3-D.
 * Michael Bay has claimed that the studio is putting out deliberate misinformation, to obscure real leaks. (Like our jobs weren't hard enough.)
 * A key character will return and "attempt to settle a score".
 * Roberto Orci confirmed that there is no '2' in the title of the sequel.
 * Aaron Hill is confirmed to play a supporting in the film.
 * During San Diego Comic-Con 2008, Simon Furman claimed that a character based upon The Fallen would be in the film. A day or two later, IDW Publishing writer Chris Mowry corroborated the claim in an interview with MTV Splash Page, calling "The Fallen" the main villian of Revenge (Arcee was also confirmed in the same interview, but the reference to her was mysteriously removed shortly after publication). Less than a week after this, however, Michael Bay reiterated that everything leaked thus far is part of their misinformation campaign and that only a handful of people involved with the production of Revenge have seen the script, contradicting IDW's interviews where their representatives confirm that they have the script. Additionally, Bay claimed the only truth about the film was Sam going to college. Curiously, on August 5th 2008, after a fan posted on Michael Bay's forum pointing out the contradiction, all references to the Fallen were removed from the aforementioned interviews, as well as any references to IDW Publishing having the script.
 * When questioned about whether the Transformers would have more flat surfaces and have less internal machinery exposed compared to the designs from the first movie, Roberto Orci answered with an emphatic "YES".
 * An official behind-the-scenes video from the first day of shooting (June 2, 2008) at the former steel plant in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania was posted on Wal-Mart's public website in early September of 2008. The video shows police cars with Chinese markings, Josh Duhamel and Tyrese Gibson shooting an action sequence together with other actors and extras dressed as soldiers, and an Audi R8 being chased by three differently-colored motorcycles, all three of them equipped with drivers wearing the same outfit.
 * The first theatrical trailer for the film is expected to be released with Star Trek (co-written by Roberto Orci and Alex Kurtzman), which is set to be released in the United States on May 8, 2009.
 * As confirmed by Variety, a short teaser trailer of 31 seconds was released in the net on the SuperBowl on February 1.
 * In a recent interview it Roberto Orci; Bonecrusher and Brawl/Devastator will not be coming back in the sequel.
 * In the recent issue of Empire, it has been comfirmed that the Pyramid of Giza scene will be set at the near end of the film and that the pyramids have a connection with the Transformers, the pyramids will be a key feature to the decepticons plans. Devastator will make an appearance in the pyramid scene. Bay has also stated that Megatron will feature in Transformers: ROTF and that scenes in Transformers: ROTF will also be set in Paris, Jordan, Luxor, Oman and Shanghai.
 * Roberto Orci has confirmed a Pretender will appear.
 * Roberto Orci has confirmed Megatron will return for the film.
 * Frank Welker will reprise his role as Soundwave.

Toyline
Shouldn't the toyline be written now because the toys have been for a while and the movie is already out, too. Also, should it be merged with the first movie's toyline? Teh lolz! BPL  00:43, 14 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Shouldn't be merged, it's a seperate line. It does need written, though, but I know next-to-nothing about it, I'm afraid. Jeep! 00:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I can't provide images, but I do have four of the new figures and can give a detailed description of each one; namely Deluxe Soundwave (wasted potential), Voyager Demolishor (unique body shape, but oversimplified transformation), Voyager Mixmaster (panels keep popping off, but good figure overall), and Voyager The Fallen (awesome design, but limbs keep coming off). Or were you referring to an index page featuring an alphabetized list of links to the individual characters' pages? Xeno the Hedgehog 04:00, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Something more like this. If someone roughs it up with a list of all the toys I can format it properly, so it needn't be a one-person effort. Jeep! 14:54, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * For some reason, none of the pages on this wiki are loading properly when I try to access them. Has someone been screwing with the format? Xeno the Hedgehog 23:04, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Nevermind, they're working now. Regarding the ROTF toyline, if someone starts it, I can probably take it from there. Xeno the Hedgehog 23:06, 15 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Well, you can take a look at TFWiki's toyline for some ideas. How did they get so far and we didn't even start? Teh lolz! BPL  01:40, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

movie in theaters
as anyone seen the movie yet? bumblebee prime 14:31, 22 July 2009 (UTC)