Talk:Main Page/Archive3

Capsule Toys
I have discovered an inheret lack of info on the $1.00 Capsule Toys. You know, the little rubber chibi Transformers from the movie toyline that poop cars?

The Funny
Maybe if the stuff you said was funny, no one would have a problem with it, but most of the jokes on here are pretty lame, it's not about transformers fans being serious, it's about your jokes being bad. When other people try to put there humor in it, you erase it. Sooooo make the jokes funny and you wont have to worry about it. Besides the Real Wikipedia has more information on transformers than the one dedicated to transformers have, what gives. Maybe before you work on your lame jokes you can fill out the information on the article. Sorry just what I think about it, don't take to much offence.


 * Humor is subjective. Pesonally, I consider most of the jokes on this site to be neutral.  They are clearly trying to be silly, but neither funny nor painful.  They merely lighten the tone.  Users who show up here and do nothing but change jokes into different jokes are clearly not accomplishing anything.  The new jokes are never any better -- they are merely different, and often worse.  That is a waste of everybody's time.  I haven't spent a lot of time browsing Transformers material on Wikipedia, but I highly doubt that their information is better, even if there might be a larger quantity of it.  What little I've seen there has been disorganized, mixes fan assertions with canon, and is at times not even reliable.  If they have more information than we do, it is only because people have been adding TF info there for at least twice as long as this specialized wiki has existed.  --Steve-o 15:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Yep, this wiki is a far more reliable source of information for Transformers than the Wikipedia shall ever be. I've corrected some of their base assumptions and half-truths upon occassion. If we lack information for something, then feel free to contribute to our wiki or wait for one of us to get around to it. Really, what the Wikipedia offers is rather generalised information and (as steve-o points out) fan-assumed fanon and downright false information. Besides, we provide the Transformers info that the users on the wikipedia either don't know or won't bother with, such as info on the toys, their designers, toy construction materials, obscure series and/or characters and so on.
 * And yes, we think captioning a picture of say, Megatron with 'Art of Megatron' or some such is really patronising. --FFN 17:00, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.

One time I tried to change Nautilator's bio; stating that he carries a powerful weapon, transforms INTO a powerful weapon, and is an undersea version of Constructicon Scavager. But none of that went through.

I'm sensing "the bias" here.

Tyrenol


 * I, as a fellow Transformer fan, agree that "the funny" is lame.
 * Some of it is certainly very very lame. If you would like to raise the level of humor here, then A) become a regular and respected contributor of useful non-funny stuff, then B) improve the funny.  What we most strongly object to is newcomers who contribute nothing except changes to the humor.  Changing the funny is an earned privilege.  JW 19:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Tyrenol: Your Nautilator bio was, as far as I can tell, at best fanon or at worst fan fiction. Steve-o (an admin) points out that your edit had nothing to do with the established Hasbro toy bio. Despite our humour and over-the-top references to a character's foibles, we base what we write on official material approved by Hasbro/Takara.


 * That's not 'bias', that's the rules.


 * Okay, then. Here's another idea:  How about you guys use the exact wording from the bios as oppose to just sticking stuff in and thinking that everyone else will agree with its hilariousness.


 * Besides; I have two problems with anything Wiki. 1) Things don't stay changed when they get changed.  Annoyances like needed citations and reliable sources that have a problem staying reliable.  2) I have a life to live, a job to pay for where I live, and I really don't have the time to watch everything on the web like a cold-stare hawk.


 * My apologies for being new. My apologies for calling your jokes lame.  But what is everybody doing on the web when they can't take the sharp, cold knife in the back that's called "criticism?"  The same rules apply for me.  Tyrenol


 * We have a specific policy AGAINST cut-and-pasting from bios, one of many reasons being that those are a) copyrighted and b) not always applicable. After all, Shockwave sure wasn't anything like his toy bio in the cartoon. Character overviews on this resource are "all-encompassing", in order to reflect changes and evolutions in the character. And what do you do when a character -like, say, Optimus Prime- has several dozen bios over the course of 20 years?
 * Maybe you should apologize for playing the "I have a life" card that screams "I have no actual argument so I'll imply you all are losers". And don't confuse "whinging" with "criticism", or "disagreeing with" as "can't take it". This argument has come up with many an anon IP who is more interested in fighting a long-established precedent for this wiki which has garnered far more positive attention than negative than they are in contributing, and if they didn't change thing one about it, neither will you. --M Sipher


 * As for humour being lame, let me ask you a question: Do you wander onto privately-run Tranformers fan sites and message boards, see something you don't like (that isn't necessarily offensive) and proceed to tell off the admins for how they run their website? Much of the reason the wiki is the way it is is because the people who run this wiki and the majority of regular contributors have a sense of humour. I find it odd that newcomers will question our policies as if they claim some sort of ownership over the wiki, yet have contributed little to it. --FFN 02:24, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm a newcomer, but I have to admit that the policies regarding jokes prevent unfair bias, if anything. Additionally, it helps newcomers achieve a sense of ownership.  Maybe we don't all get the lame obscure reference on whatever page, but whoever put it there probably thinks it's hilarious! Thanks to the established policies he/she doesn't need to worry about someone replacing it with another, equally-lame obscure reference. --Starcrunch 19:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Make jokes and be merry. My message to any readers is if you get offended by jokes, then you take Transformers way too seriously :-D --FFN 03:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)


 * haha... Transformers too seriously?! Only five of my nine open browser tabs are occupied with something Transformers related right now.  If that's not moderation, then I don't know what is! ...but yes, if your reason for being put-off is a bent sense of humor, then you're probably in in the wrong place! --Starcrunch 18:16, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I thought the Ladiesman217 article was funny. Needed some fixing for the caption with the police car. It's not funny.

When I read these articles for information, and some stupid joke gets thrown in, it really throws my thought process off. I'm sure it's that way for a lot of people too. Don't forget you're writing this for other people and it's not a good idea to screw with them, or whatever FartboyExtreme 03:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * For every person that hates the joking and non-serious nature of the wiki, there's somebody else that loves it. If people can't hack the humour, well I'm sorry, but that's your problem. As for writing this for other people, I contribute to this wiki for the sheer pleasure of having fun with my stupid toy & cartoon hobby, not out of some obligation or duty to provide an encyclopedia for the fandom. As far as I am concerned, so long as we are accurate and detailed, we can also make light of our hobby. -FFN 05:31, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think there needs to be some rules on where the jokes can be. I personally don't mind them when they're in image captions and such, but I think in the middle of a paragraph isn't very appropriate. Know what I mean? FartboyExtreme 21:01, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you provide an example of "middle of the paragraph" humor where you find it inappropriate?
 * Also, just a note: It's hard to take you seriously with that username. JW 21:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think he's talking about things like my edits to Sparkplug Witwicky's cartoon section where I said the Autobots saved the oil rig workers "from a death exactly the same as death", or references to characters freaking out.
 * As for establishing rules to prevent people from placing jokes within paragraphs, I highly doubt that will come to pass as most of the regular contributors and the administration staff write in this manner. --FFN 06:28, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Seriously, people saying BAWWW WIKI NOT SERIOUS ENOUGH irritates the fuck out of me. I'm sorry our little collection of information about giant toy space robots isn't serious enough for you.  Maybe you should go read a Serious Encyclopedia, like the one dedicated to Everything The Goddamn Ewoks Ever Did.  That's a serious topic worthy of intense consideration, and it should be treated with the respect it deserves.  -hx 13:49, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * People with names like FartboyExtreme complaining that the wiki isn't serious enough set off my bullshit meter something fierce.--RosicrucianTalk 14:13, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That comment about writing this for other people really shit me up the wall. I was not aware I was doing this wiki as my job. --FFN 15:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

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Featured Article for October
So...are we ever going to change the featured article? It's been Megatron for, like, two months now. Cyberlink420 03:58, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * It depends on what the management thinks is complete enough in terms of length and content. I think Movie Prime's article should be given a go since October will be the month of the DVD release in the US and the article is more or less complete. --FFN 04:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * How about something other than a character page?--Zodberg 12:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I nominate Sector Seven, because the article is fairly thorough, references a lot of material, and will be useful to the fans directed here who liked the movie but haven't read all the minor, wacky background material. That article is still listed as a "Stub," though as with a great many "stubs" on this wiki I kind of don't see why.  It could be made longer, like all of them, but it's not like it's missing anything critical or is just a halfassed paragraph.  --Thylacine 2000 14:33, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
 * I think we should make articles for Rebecca Howard and Alexander Powers before we feature it, since they're pretty important to the ARG storyline, which, as you said, is the wacky background material 99% of people would never seen or heard of. Plus they're linked right at the start of the article. --FFN 14:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

By the way when it comes doing the most wanted page list means I will do it but someone must back me up when I go do yardwork.(Spearhead 08:03, 7 October 2007 (UTC))

Sweet zombie Jesus, the Featured Article changed!!! I think I may faint! ...But one request: Please don't change it back to Megatron in November! --Starcrunch 15:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

Nice going guys. You finally got rid of Megatron... and then replaced him with Primal Prime, who's been on for three months. Either someone tell me how to change that article, or please replace it with something new--how about Optimus Prime's G1 toys? &quot;MovieMan&quot; 11:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)Crosshairs-1

When will the page be changed? It's been Jihaxus for so long now. JimCappuccino 20:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)JimCappuccino

"By series" column is missing...
"Comics" for Beast Wars.--Nevermore 13:51, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Just a little question...
Is there anywhere I can find a NON parody wiki? - Anonymous


 * Right here? --M Sipher 19:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * wikipedia--Carrion 19:33, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * But their TF pages suck. So dry and boring and light on content and all Mignashy. --M Sipher 19:35, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Mostly the Mignashy part. —Interrobang 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia Transformers stuff is full on content! It's just all made up.  --ItsWalky 20:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't think you understand the meaning of "parody", Mister Anonymous. "It has humor in it" is not what parody entails. —Interrobang 20:48, 13 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Yeah, plus beneath our bad captions and jokes there's a wealth of information you will not likely find anywhere else, at least not all in one place. I think people are too used to the "[insert franchise] is Serious Business" natures of the large, dry wikis like Memory Alpha and the Star Wars Wiki. That or they are unable to laugh at Transformers because they take it too seriously. Or they think this entire wiki is written solely by Walky, and since they hate Walky, they hate the wiki. Those last people suck. --FFN 20:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Logo--Good Wiki!
Hi guys!!! This is a very creative wiki! But I am not keen on the logo. Right now is:


 * Please sign your posts to talk pages by typing four tildes ( ~ ) at the end.
 * Also, you'll have more luck getting us to change our logo if you spend a few months as a regular contributor, first. JW 19:22, 30 January 2008 (UTC)

How do u put your logo on the upper left?--Farragut79 14:07, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

Caps?
Do we want to implement sabrblade's suggestion of replacing

(toyline/cartoon/comic)

with

(Toyline/Cartoon/Comic)

. . . ? Personally, I think it makes the page look more cluttered. JW 22:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, I just thought it would make it look a little neater. I didn't mean anything by it. I also thought it would make more sense to change "comic" to "comics" under Generation 1 and Beast Wars since they both had more than one comic series. I also put a "comic" link under Beast Machines that goes to the Wreckers comic since that is a Beast Machines comic series. And I thought "comics" should be "comic" under Animated since so far it only had one comic series that we know of. And "Sequel" was already put under Transformers (2007), since I saw that it was capitalized, that's what gave me the idea to capitalize the rest. But I see that someone erased "Sequel" from the main page. Sabrblade 23:11, 26 February 2008 (UTC)