Talk:Megatron (Tyran)

Human Name jokes
We might as well make the article play on his human-given names.

Megatron's Cybertronian form
Has anyone else noticed that Megatron's vehicle form bares more than a passing resemblance to the Swordfish, the personal ship flown by Spike Spiegel in Cowboy BeBop? King Starscream 02:39, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * Not really, no. --EricMarrs 12:07, 9 May 2007 (UTC)


 * The only difference is it's A. silver, and B. has three guns instead of one.


 * I agree, it looks very similar. The wings in particular. I mean, it doesn't exactly look like THE Swordfish, but it looks like a 'mono-racer' from Bebop at least.


 * It looks more like the Zone of the Enders version of the Vic Viper than the Swordfish, at least to me it does.--Carrion 03:58, 25 July 2007 (UTC)


 * I actually found it looked like the other megatrons` jet mode.--Autobotx1010 01:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I think I see it. -- SFH 01:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Earth Mode
According to Wikipedia and IGN, Megatron turns into a stealth bomber. Hunter-113 22:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Until either one is verified by anything official, we're not including that "info". --M Sipher 22:38, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Reading the IGN article, they said they got this from playing an early version of the Movie's game. Hunter-113 01:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Still makes it somewhere between unconfirmed second-hand report and leaked info. With this sort of thing patience is best. IF it is true we'll all no for sure soon enough and it can go up then.n--ZacWilliam 02:51, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
 * Seibertron reported recently that some of the production staff hinted at Megatron not getting an Earth form after all, at least in this movie. I'd say wait until the movie comes out, because even if they make a toy it's still not confirmed.  User:King Starscream 13:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
 * From the book media I've perused, Megatron stays silvery and alieny the entire course of it all. There's other things I saw, but I shan't go into them since all these books come out tomorrow and you can spoil yourself then.  User:Terrocon Blot
 * Which book? Sounds interesting.  King Starscream 03:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
 * All the kids books that come out tomorrow. The I can read, storybook, junior novels, etc.  Heck, a few of the books have Megatron and Brawl standing side by side.  He ain't Brawl.  All these books come out tomorrow, and will be on display in your local book stores.  (Seriously, this is screwed up. I can't seem to edit pages when I'm logged in.)  User:Terrocon Blot
 * Looking at game footage, either the Stealth-Bomber Megs was an early idea that was discarded, or he gets an Earth mode later in the game. -- Hunter-113 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Sibling status
I strongly question the inclusion of he and Optimus being brothers in the main bio, unless that is backed up by the movie itself, or some future toy bio, or other source stronger than books based on earlier drafts of the script. --KilMichaelMcC 02:23, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * If the movie does not contradict it, surely it is still true. :)
 * FOr what it's worth- the prequel comics had this vibe goigng too, the ADF novelization mentions brushes by it,t he junior novelization says it explicitly... and I think there's at least 1 more source. -Derik 02:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The DS game says so. --ItsWalky 02:34, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * As does the console version. --M Sipher 02:47, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay, yeah. The game counts a stonger source. Although if it's not mentioned in the movie itself, I think it's going to require a footnote notation citing the places it is. --KilMichaelMcC 02:55, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * The Decepticon DS version also says it flat out.--MCRG 07:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * What we have now is correct, and there is no need to change anything. --FFN 09:48, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
 * For the record to future peoples, Optimus does call Megatron his bro in the movie.--MCRG 03:52, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

*More* Misassemblies
Yeah. I just got Super Megs and, uh, his hands are flipped. Or rather, I guess it's his thumbs and pinkies. Look at the box and compare. This should probably be noted... 71.61.152.122 07:53, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Geeeeez, you're right. Is there anything assembled right on this guy?--MCRG 04:20, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm comparing photos at Seibertron.com, and um...I'm not seeing it.
 * It's most noticable in the picture of his macehand, but you can see it in the big one too. Don't look at 'pics' of the box, look at it with your own two eyes. >.> 71.60.159.181 09:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

Galvatron
I strongly belive that the allspark will resurect megatron in a future sequel and possibly reformat him into galvatron. It'll probebly bring him back to life at least
 * I don't deny that I think the AllSpark will play a part in Megs's revival, but I highly doubt (and strongly hope) that he won't become Galvatron.

Marinas Trench
I realize Keller said the Decepticons were dropped into the deepest section of ocean in the world, but he calls it specifically something other than the Marinas Trench. To that end, using "Marinas Trench" doesn't seem exactly right to me. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to quite decipher what he DID call it. Was anybody else? And what does other media say about the location? --Sntint 15:19, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

I concur that the trench name from the film should be used here instead of the Marianas. --Steve-o 15:48, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keller says "Laurentian Trench," which is a real ocean feature but by no means its deepest. He also says it's the deepest spot on the ocean at over 7 miles deep, which is correct for the Marianas.  So, a fact-finding flub.  --Thylacine 2000 18:23, 6 July 2007 (UTC)


 * How dare the Secretary of Defense not be completely up to speed on the name of the deepest part of the ocean. (seriously, it's entirely possible that Keller had no idea what hte fuck he was talking about.)  -hx 18:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

"The Head Wars"
the one present right now is a little blurry, wouldn't that one be better? --GUIGUI 18:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * No, because that one doesn't have the right head. We replaced the one you suggested with the current version.  (Blurry?  It's a sized-down version of a gigantic-ass render straight from Dreamworks.)  --ItsWalky 20:59, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Um, yes it does. The Current one has the wrong head. Screencap comparison coming momentarily. Please stand by. Inferno&#39;sQueen 19:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * There is no more-current render to move to. There is a much older, outdated one that somebody keeps reverting to, but the one we currently use is practically the one used in the movie, if not the very same.  --ItsWalky 20:13, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Not the same. The top of the head in the final version is different. Here. Now tell me I'm wrong.Inferno&#39;sQueen 20:15, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The head we currently have is way way way way way way closer than the alternative. Find us a full-body render that's a better alternative, and we'll switch them out, but there is none.  --ItsWalky 20:25, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * GUIGUI's is the accurate head. It's just got blue eyes. But considering the eyes of some movie images on the wiki aren't even glowing at all I don't think that should be an issue.
 * Don't answer me with another block. Please. I'm just trying to help the wiki. Mr. Q 16:31, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That is so totally not the final Megatron. This render showed up months before the one we're currently using, and they hadn't even finished texturing the model.  Please drop the issue.  --ItsWalky 17:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Okay, now I'm confused. Is the body wrong on that one or something? Mr. Q 17:22, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think it's just shaded wrong(no shadows), and his torso is not completely "filled" with metal. -the preceding unsigned comment was added by Grand-majin
 * That doesn't seem like a good excuse. And please sign your posts. Mr. Q 15:32, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I looked at the image again, and it does look a bit odd. But not very much. I suggest a poll/survey of the admins to decide who thinks it should be Meg's main pic, as the torso bit is the only problem. It won't be visible in thumbnail format anyhow. The Big Q 19:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The Megatron model has two heads, a standard head and the battle head. The final promotional render with all the completed surface detail, which we are using, uses the standard head.  --ItsWalky 19:27, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Admins, please put "Yes" after your name if you think the current image should be changed to this one, or "No" if you think it should stay as-is.The Big Q 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

The current poll:

User:ItsWalky: He hasn't officially voted yet, but it seems as though his answer will be "No."

User:Steve-o: Insert vote here

User:Suki Brits: Insert vote here

User:Chris McFeely: Insert vote here


 * If I missed an admin, please notify them and add them here. The Big Q 19:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * you know, the admins aren't the only ones who have a say in this. And given that the model in the current image is almost if not completely identical to the one used in the movie it should be left as is. IMO, your argument is kinda like saying we need a new main image for Optimus Primal because it has a mouth doesn't have a full faceplate like the final model, even though the final model had both "mouth" and "faceplate" versions. --FortMax 19:43, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, we can't poll everyone. I'm relatively new, lucky enough to have found the admins listed somewhere. I wouldn't know who else to ask. And That Primal thing does not make sense. I know he had a mouth and a mouthplate. I'm saying the current image has the wrong head, and it should be fixed. The Big Q 20:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * This is bordering on farce.--RosicrucianTalk 20:07, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Agreed. If Inferno's Queen does not immediately drop the matter, I will get rid of her for refusing to stop wasting all of our time and polluting the Recent changes page with this retarded personal gripe.  --ItsWalky 20:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


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 * GUY! The Big Q 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Inferno's Queen, it's like I said on the image's talk page: we don't have a full body shot of Megatron's final design, so we're going with the most accurate one. -- SFH 20:20, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

After the poll is completed, this will end. Deal?The Big Q 20:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * ...you don't get to dictate policy to admins.--RosicrucianTalk 20:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * That's not quite true. If she keeps this up, she'll likely dictate a permaban on herself :p --FortMax 00:21, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Fine already! I'll leave the issue alone if you stop calling me a girl! I AM A GUY!!! The Big Q 12:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

Seriously, dude, is this all you've got to offer?! This is such an incredibly minor issue that it's nowhere worth the amount of discussion that has already gone on about it. -- Repowers 23:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

This is mind-blowingly petty. I don't feel the need to express any opinion on the matter, it's pretty damn clear what the consensus is. --Suki Brits 04:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

video game info
should we edit it to have more info on megatron in the game?
 * ...Deathy? -Derik 16:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Weapon names
The article currently contains the current text in its movie summary: "Megatron declared that if Prime wished to defend them, he should die with them, forming his fusion cannon. Before he could fire, the Autobot leader drew his ion blaster and fired, hitting Megatron." Do we have any reason/justification for referring to those weapons so specifically as a fusion cannon and ion blaster? --Steve-o 00:53, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * In the trivia section of Prime's article, it's called an ion blaster. As for the fusion cannon...-- SFH 01:15, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Doesn't Leader Megatron's toy packaging say "Arms combine to form fusion cannon!" or something along those lines? --KilMichaelMcC 01:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Answering my own question by looking up DVD's review, yes it does. And the product listing at Hasbro.com says: "Robot mode also features a launching rocket claw that becomes a chain whip, and arms that combine to create a fusion cannon!" --KilMichaelMcC 01:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Language
According to the Circuit City voice featurette, the producers made up an alien language (or Hugo Weaving did, the wording is vague), and Weaving is shown speaking in it as Megatron. Did this make it into the final film? --Monzo 14:10, 19 October 2007 (UTC)


 * There *is* a Cybertronian language spoken by several characters (Frenzy most notably, I guess, plus Starscream, and actually 'every' Decepticon during the call-up scene) but nobody really knows if it's just jibberish with a flanger on or something. That, and Megs 'never' speaks Cybertronian in the movie, so this makes it even stranger. The idea behind the Cybertronians speaking a different language isn't Weaving's, however, because that was in the leaked script that came out long before Weaving was cast. 71.60.159.181 23:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Encased in ice at the bottom of the ocean?
Uh, correct me if I'm wrong, but there's no ice at the bottom of the ocean. Ice is less dense than water so any particles cold enough to freeze float above those who aren't cold enough. (Contrary to normal laws of convection; ice is weird like that) so Megatron and the Decepticons wouldn't be icy at all. Just really cold and crushed under immense water pressure.

Megu said what?
When Megu arrives in Mission City, he says two sentences. Just when he lands, he says something that I heard as "Let me play!" But what did he say after that? Because, the article says that Megu again declared his name when arriving in M City, but he didn't sound like that. Will someone clarify what exactly he said? StarShade 09:39, 20 January 2008 (UTC)