Talk:Transformers Animated (cartoon)

Cybertron Modes
Anyone else think that we should add images of all the Cybertron forms in the profile pages

Wasp, Warp and Swind
Ok, anyone got a link confirming these three. Cause I know Waspy was just a rumour to start off with, and Skywarp and Swindle are completely new to meUser:GWolfv2
 * http://www.seibertron.com/news/view.php?id=12617&, but it's STILL a rumour. We should wait for an official statement. --Hepathos 16:32, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Or at least until we know which factions the new characters are. Skywarp we can take for granted, but the other two?  --Thylacine 2000 18:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Mixmaster
Is this confirmed?
 * I believe this info came from the same person who posted a lot of the design sheets on different message boards. I'd assume he's in the know if he got his hands on those, but at the same time, I'm not sure I'd call it official. Koh4711 02:05, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Waspinator?
When has there been any mention of him appearing?
 * David Kaye talked about Waspinator appearing in the show during BotCon '07. -Awa64 01:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
 * He wasn't confirmed in anyway though. And as far as I can tell, there's nowhere in the episode guide that introduces him

Yeah, I don't really think that we should have him there right now. Hope to god he's in though. Ragingtsunami726 02:23, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Ironhide

 * sooooo...Ironhide is not one of the Cybertrons Elite Guards anymore now that he got placed in the normal cast of autobots?--Grand-majin 16:38, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

UK Intro
I was watching TF:A in the UK and noticed that the intro has gained the adition of two red bars at the top and bottom of the screen, these are not in the versions i have downloaded... is this because of the change from NTSC to PAL or is it because they were animated in 16x9 while the rest of the show is 4x3?

Season 3?
"Season 3 is already in the works and season 4 is quite possible"--where was that ever confirmed? I thought we hadn't heard anything about the cartoon past "A Bridge Too Close." --Thylacine 2000 16:21, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Either Botcon or Comicon, if I recall. Mentioned that 1 and 2 were already in the can (and we know why now, given the way they're being aired back to back) and that they were taking this all the way.--RosicrucianTalk 16:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Cast List & Non-Show Characters
We have probably reached the point where the cast list on this page should be pruned of characters who haven't actually appeared in the show, like Blurr and Laserbeak. Opinions? JW 17:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, there is the possiblity of Blurr in Velocity, but I think Laserbeak can go for now. -- SFH 18:28, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Laserbeak is being planned for S3 apparently User:GWolfv2
 * Our general rule is that we wait for things to actually happen before putting them in the wiki, n'est-ce pas? JW 19:47, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
 * How about Oil Slick? He was designed to be a toy only character. And I have a hunch, so does Jetfire & Jetstrom. Where do we put them? --Hepathos 11:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * They're in Category:Animated characters and Category:Toy-only characters. That's the way we normally handle toy-only characters.  JW 11:18, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, toy-only characters might be found under.... oh, I dunno... maybe... Animated (toyline)? -- Repowers 14:16, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Once again, barring dissent, I'm going to go through the cast list and prune it of characters who haven't already appeared in the show. That way we don't try to predict who's a toy-only character, and we don't post stuff in advance of official announcements. Toy characters go on Animated (toyline), and all characters go in Category:Animated characters, but the cast list is for people who have appeared. Dissent? JW 20:46, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Criminy
Every time a writer or voice actor mentions someone as a "possibility" we have to spend three months removing them from the cast list. Now, it begins for Galvatron and Ratbat. And they're still talking about Waspinator as a "possibility" so we're still dealing with that one.--RosicrucianTalk 23:56, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

Making new pages for episodes...?
So I was thinking I would try my hand at actually creating a page and adding some real content. I was gonna do it for Black Friday since it doesn't have a page, but I wanted to make sure there wasn't some rule against doing this for episodes that haven't aired yet, even though they already showed this one at Botcon. --Rose.T 06:48, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * We have a 30 day moratorium on 'club-exclusive' material. (So people don't just rush here and reach rephrased synopses instead of signing up.  Also because if you opt for the cheap shipping your stuff arrives later.)  In that instance, the material being 'protected' by the moratorium increases in value (for Fun Pub) because it is protected.  Black Friday is not a club exclusive (it was a con exclusive,) refraining from documenting it does not increase its value- or offer any secondary value to people who sign up for the collector's club in the future (unlike other club premiums, future members will never 'get' to watch he episode early again.)
 * The Botcon airing of Black Friday doesn't seem to be protected for any of the reasons we normally protect stuff. I'd say 'go ahead' unless someone else voices an objection. -75.168.112.43 07:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I say go for it, just use a spoiler tag. We had synopses for episodes that were essentially Canadian exclusive, at least for a week. - Semysane 09:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * No. No spoiler tags in episode articles. If you're too stupid to realize that an article about the episode itself contains spoilers, then nothing can help you. —Interrobang 10:04, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm gonna disagree here, just on the off chance that someone clicks "random page" and winds up on the Black Friday page. The spoiler alert will give them time to get somewhere else before seeing something they might not want to.  -hx 11:29, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Hooper. Having gone through the BW time when assholes spoiled things left and right in a big HEY I GOTS INSIDE INFO DIG ME douchebaggery festival, I'm all for making sure accidental spoilers don't happen. --M Sipher 14:18, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I invite all of you to Transformers Wiki Talk: Spoilers.--RosicrucianTalk 14:21, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't see how that's not accomplished by the navbox at the top that clearly states it's the 26th episode of Animated. Or, y'know, the title. —Interrobang 14:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What about the page title "Garbage In Garbage Out" tells me that it's an unaired Animated episode, instead of some obscure storybook that I've never heard of or old comic book title that I've forgotten about? Spoiler warnings are common courtesy and have been since time immemorial (in Internet terms, anyway.) -- Repowers 14:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

More cast revealed
Creator Derrick has posted in his blog http://derrickjwyatt.blogspot.com/ several faces of who appear to be, swindle, jetstorm, wreck gar, skywarp, shockwave, mixmaster, blurr, jetfire and thundercracker

Also, in the comments section he says and I quote "About Gurren Lagann: No, actually. I hadn't seen Gurren Lagann until after we had finished most of the first season of TFA. I wish I had, because I would have had the Headmaster robot transform with stubby little legs. And maybe Masterson's head popping up out of the top of the robot."
 * Who thinks these characters should be added to the cast list? I mean, the are confirmed.
 * Aside from Wreckgar, they haven't appeared yet. We're not adding people until they've had an episode appearance and a confirmed voice actor (if they have speaking lines).--RosicrucianTalk 03:01, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

Profile problem
anyone else think a few of the profiles need to be tightened/tidied up. Magnus for example. Or Prime's(needs to be expandedd). They just feel like people have been adding stuff, instead of one steady piece of writing like profiles for other series...I've an idea for the ones I think need fixing, but rather get the go ahead before I have a goUser:GWolfv2
 * Don't really need approval. Pages usually need tightened up a bit after a few episodes air. Go for it.--RosicrucianTalk 15:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Yep. That's called "dogpiling" and it's a real problem when new episodes are revealing more info about a character -- people just tack stuff on without looking at what's already written. Drives me nuts! -- Repowers 16:02, 30 April 2008 (UTC)

Reception
Simple Q: Should we add something about fan reaction, like we did with Sari's page. And I mean proper tuff, what's pleased, what was less well received. None of that rubbish about chins, or insulting fans or anything. Just, the reception section is fairly bare.
 * Please sign your posts, as instructed at the top of every Editing Talk screen. JW 19:56, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

"Always animated"
I think one could make a compelling arguement that the previous four TV seriese weren't animated... --M Sipher 17:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

What century is this?
I may just be forgetful in my old age, but have they ever made reference in the show to exactly when it takes place? 21st century, 22nd century? If so, in which episode? JW 11:57, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * In "Blast from the Past," Isaac says his new circuitry will bring Dino Drive into the 22nd century. --Thylacine 2000 14:09, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * The packaging blurb on the back of the Transform and Roll Out DVD says 22nd century as well. --ItsWalky 14:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
 * Excellent, the DVD is the sort of evidence I was looking for, thank you. (The BftP quote isn't conclusive; lots of people in the 1990s were talking about gearing up for the 21st century.)  JW 14:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

Spoiler notice, but...
I saw the clip for the final episode, and I think we could add a few of the coming characters - however, I'm not sure on the names, and I don't want to add speculation or spoilers if policy prohibits:

Seekers:
 * Starscream
 * Skywarp
 * Thundercracker
 * Sunstorm
 * Ramjet (has the correct coloration, but not a conehead)
 * A female seeker with a purple body and cyan limbs

Decepticons:
 * Shockwave
 * Scrapper
 * Mixmaster

Autobots:
 * Blurr
 * Omega Supreme - turns out the Autobots' ship is a Transformer as well

The Dinobots, Autobot Elite Guard, Wreck-Gar, Lockdown, Soundwave, and BlackArachnia do not seem to appear in the episode, for anyone interested.KrytenKoro 04:38, 14 May 2008 (UTC)