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Unlikely but surprisingly well-researched Transformers reference
Are you familiar with a recent Gainax anime series titled Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt? In the seventh episode of the show, the entire first half of the episode is a series of transformers references. On top of that, it seems they did their homework, because I was able to pick out distinct series among the references, including, but not limited to, G1 (majority of the episode), the 1986 animated film (uncannily similar battle to the one between Optimus Prime and Megatron, two characters that bear a strong resemblance to Hot Rod, and a cameo by Unicron at the end), RiD and the Unicron Trilogy (Unicron's cameo, plus one of the Hotrod characters has an RiD-style transformation sequence, whose animation style and over-dramatic execution are reminiscent of both series), the live action films (the opening and closing sequences bear strong resemblance to the trailers, plus appliances are brought to life a la RotF, and "Optimasculis" and "Femitron" bear a close resemblance to their live-action counterparts), and a hint of Animated (in her Megatron form, Stocking's twin swords closely resemble the ones wielded by Animated Megatron). Ironically, and perhaps due to their similar themes, there was no obvious reference to Kiss Players. Normally I wouldn't mention a reference to transformers in a different show, but this one shows enough background knowledge that it might be worthy of mention on the wiki. Your thoughts? Xeno the Hedgehog 08:03, January 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, I know the series, which is interesting and funny. However, I don't think we should create a page for the show since the site is about Transformers franchise. (Years ago, there were users created pages for Family Guy and Robot Chicken, which were deleted soon.) BUT, it is okay to mention any non-Transformers appearance in respective pages, such as Assassin's Creed. :D
 * PS. If P&S get a crossover with Transformers in products or fictions, we can create a page for the show in very good reason. -- TX55   TALK  08:40, January 4, 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's a pic which highlights some, but not all of the references in the episode; Xeno the Hedgehog 23:13, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Wiki skin since oasis
I'm now allowed to give you back what you had before with monaco (mostly!) are you interested ? I can't do anything about page width, but i can give you back the opacity on the pages and the background imagine with the two transformers. — Game widow 00:53, January 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * THANKS! ;-D We do need a new background similar or as same as the original, because the red background is eye-hurting. -- TX55   TALK  02:42, January 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * Great! i'm on it ;) — Game widow 03:04, January 5, 2011 (UTC)


 * GOOD JOB! The wiki is saved. Thank you very much!! :D -- TX55   TALK  07:06, January 5, 2011 (UTC)

How about this for the new wordmark (logo) ? — Game widow 19:00, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not TX55, but could it have the wiki's name, Teletraan I, on it as well? --Tetrap 22:52, January 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * The picture is good! However, like Tetrap said, the logo needs "Teletraan I" on it since it is our site's name. :D -- TX55   TALK  03:09, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * OK, how about this, then (the image should have changed above). — Game widow 20:11, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I like it, but I wonder if it might be easier to avoid using the official logo and reproduce it in original lettering, so the "Teletraan I" and "Wiki" parts match better. I've had a go: [[File:logotesttetrap.png]] --Tetrap 22:49, January 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * Tetrap's is better. However, can the "Transformers Wiki" be a bit smaller than "Teletraan I". For example, if "Teletraan I" is 14, "Transformers Wiki" is 12. :D -- TX55   TALK  02:30, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've adjusted the text a bit and uploaded a new copy over the old one. How's that? :) --Tetrap 03:08, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks good to me. :D -- TX55   TALK  14:43, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool! Are you going to use that one on the Wiki? --Tetrap 09:06, January 11, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sure. ;-D


 * Once you have a version that you are happy with TX55, just go to "My Tools" then choose "Theme Designer" and then go to the "Wordmark" tab to upload the new wordmark. (You'll have to download a copy of the file to your PC to do this afaik, and just make sure that it is exactly 250px wide by 65px high and in png format, and you're all set) — Game widow 12:48, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, TX55! Just curious, but I noticed you didn't put the new wordmark up yet. Is there anything else I need to do to it..? --Tetrap 23:25, January 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the notice! I uploaded a few time, and it doesn't work. I just tried another browser, it seems okay now. :D -- TX55   TALK  01:59, January 25, 2011 (UTC)
 * Awesome! :) --Tetrap 02:15, January 25, 2011 (UTC)

Two TF Wikis?
I have noticed that there are two different transformers wikis. Most of the pages are almost exactly the same. Can you explain why there are two, and why they are almost identical? Thanks 16:12, 2011 January 9


 * Most of the original community up and left a couple of years ago, taking a copy of the wiki with them. Both wikis are still going but are run by different people. --Tetrap 23:27, January 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Which one do you prefer? 20:32, 2011 January 10 (UTC)

Alt Mode
I edited the Alternate Mode page but later you removed everything that I added. I was wondering if I did something wrong and how I can improve the article without making other mistakes. I would appreciate any advice that you can give. (Jedijam91 06:07, January 15, 2011 (UTC))


 * I did not remove it, I just use comment tag to hide it, because the contents, um, need a bit improve, such as reworded or rewrite. :D -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 06:11, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

Hello
Hello. Congratulations on making your spectacular 27,000th edit! WOW!

I've got an issue, and to begin, it's me - Starscream7.

Jhon Henry, now in the form of Barricade123, has created a TF Dark of the Moon Wikia Site that Shockwave 56 and I are editing on, and we're attempting to become Bureaucrats. However, Barricade123 hasn't replied to my request (as he never does for anything). What should I do?

Most of all, how do you make Wikia Sites have the ability for Users to gain points and/or commenting to be allowed on pages? As for the commenting, see this - http://transformersdarkofthemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Shockwave How do you disable commenting for pages?

Also, can you do me a giant favor? Might you be able to create a Character Template on our site? Do you have to be an Administrator/Bureaucrat to do so? Thank you very much if you can.

Here's the link to the main page: http://transformersdarkofthemoon.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers:_Dark_of_the_Moon_Wiki

--Lord Starscream - Happy Holidays! 01:25, January 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you! :D I even didn't notice my edit counts, ha ha.


 * For the first one about the duplicate wiki, you need to contact Wikia because it is beyond my authorization.


 * For the second one, "commenting function", oops, Special:Contact because I don't know how to use it. It is an alternative function of "Talk Page". You can only choose one of them.


 * For the third one, I just copy Template:Transformers to your site at Template:Character. But, all I can do is copy, I don't know what parameter you need, so you can replace any parameter with what you need. :D -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 04:04, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the templates! Starscream7 even posted it as news on the main page. I hope this thing with barricade123 is solved soon.Shock 56 18:12, January 22, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. I'll cross my fingers for you. Good luck with that. :-D -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 04:43, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Inactive Administrators
Including you, there are six Administrators on this site. Currently, two are completely inactive (Croebot and Jeep!)while two are partially inactive (T-680 and Ultra Magnus 506). Have you ever demoted users? I would suggest demoting Croebot and Jeep! because they've been inactive for more than a year now. Did they ever say that they would return at a 'certain' point?

I don't want to offend you on this, but I think that two inactive Administrators aren't helping you at all. It's all your decision.

--Lord Starscream - Happy Holidays! 02:11, January 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * T-680 is my bot account, while Croebot is a bot of Wikia Staff. So, there are only 4 admin. As for Jeep!, I'd consider to notified him if he hasn't show up for one more month. :) -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 02:26, January 19, 2011 (UTC)

Breaking the Fourth Wall
I noticed that you wrote on the Coolant Squid page that it needs to be re-written so that it doesn't break the fourth wall. I was wondering if you could tell me how to fix this article.

Any advice is appreciated. Thank You. Jedijam91 02:21, January 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Usually in a page introduction and the Fiction section, things like following should be avoid:
 * "In the (episode/issue), somebody blah blah..."
 * "You can see..."
 * "Somebody is first seen in..."
 * -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 12:18, January 20, 2011 (UTC)

OK, Thank you. What would be a better way to list an object/character's appearance in the article? Jedijam91 20:20, January 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome.
 * Well, it depends. Usually we don't list it since the appearance has been listed in subtitles and contents in the Fiction section. -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 08:02, January 21, 2011 (UTC)

Position of Authority
How much contributing do you need to become a Rollback? --Lord Starscream - Happy Holidays! 01:31, January 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * It is not just about quantity, but quality, which is hard to be describe: Does the user know the site's editing standard? Does the user receive user notice frequently? If the answer is yes, does the user correct him/herself? and blah blah... Well things like that. :) -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 04:43, January 23, 2011 (UTC)

Article Pictures
I saw that pictures on TFWiki are inapropriate for posting on this Wiki so I was wondering what would be an acceptable source for pictures? Jedijam91 03:55, January 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Pictures as such are not acceptable: Bad resolution, bad image name, leak or stolen images, images from TFwiki, and others. You can visit Project:Images for further information. :) -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 04:43, January 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why don't we like TFwiki pictures? Helix341

Outside Links
How do you add links to a page on another wiki? Jedijam91 21:14, January 27, 2011 (UTC)


 * pagename (for wikia site, **** is theme, like terminator, castlevania, marvel, or ncis), pagename for Wikipedia, and pagename for others . :D -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 02:09, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. I added a link that will be satisfactory but there are actually two wikis for that particular topic and I don't know how to differentiate the two. Jedijam91 22:33, January 28, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry...
I did not know about the whole 'Caption' thing. I was just trying to start off with some jokes. Honest mistake. won't happen again.

Hbot


 * It's okay. It is a good start that you did read the talk page. (Since many newcomers don't.) :) --23:57, January 30, 2011 (UTC)

Transformers: Prime Episode 6
I just checked out some programs on my TV for February 11th, and it said that the new episode of Transformers: Prime is titled "Masters & Students". It doesn't have any plot information, though. Hope it helps! --Lord Starscream - Happy Holidays! 01:20, January 31, 2011 (UTC)


 * I believed the page can be started as an epstub. Thanks for the information! :D -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 12:17, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

Sorry again. 13:48, 2011 February 2

C'mon!
My edit to that little punk] didn't mess with the layout or captions, so why did you edit it? it even rhymed all the way!


 * Did you see the comment? I do appreciate your work, I just hide it because it needs to be merged and cleaned up. In addition, there is no need for a section "The Transformers: The Movie" since it belongs to the American cartoon continuity section. :) -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 01:59, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Dark of the moon
Hi TX55,

I just watched the 2nd trailer for dark of the moon. This trailer reveals a lot. Gaint Decepticon ships appear, and new transformers, including Laserbeak.You can watch it on Dark of the moon wiki, pagename 'trailers 1 and 2'.

Shockwave 56 18:51, February 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've seen the Super Bowl trailer as soon as it was released. Many characters were revealed only their appearance, not their name. -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 02:52, February 9, 2011 (UTC)

O.K. Shockwave 56 19:01, February 10, 2011 (UTC)

Vote for Adminship and Link
Hey, it's Starscream7, and I have a request. Can Shyockwave 56 and I set up a Vote for Adminship here for our TF DOTM website? I mean, there's really nobody there to vote. The Wikia Staff stated that we should have a Vote for Adminship, and once the votes are confirmed, they can most likely safely promote Shockwave 56 and I.

Also, would you like for us to link our website to the Dark of the Moon page?

--Lord Starscream--Transformers: Dark of the Moon - 146 days! 15:15, February 12, 2011 (UTC) (137 days)


 * So, in short, you want to put a link here to DOTM wikia? Sure! As for setting a vote for DOTM site here, um, I think you should set the vote there and create a link to the vote on the Main Page and Transformers Wiki talk:Community Portal of Teletraan-1. :D -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 15:19, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks a bunch. I'll tell the Staff the plan. -- Lord Starscream --Transformers: Dark of the Moon - 146 days! 16:56, February 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. :D -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 17:04, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

The Vote
Okay, I've created a post about the vote on the DOTM Wiki. The post has a link. Do you think that you can attempt attracting users to come and vote? Thank you.

Link: http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Starscream7/Vote_for_Adminship_(MUST_READ!) --Lord Starscream|Transformers: Dark of the Moon|(137 Days!) 01:50, February 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Got it, I'll try as possible as I can. -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 02:34, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sentinel Zeta Prime
You keep deleting my picture of Zeta Prime's vehicle mode for being a bad image with a bad name. I will rename it... but how do I fix the image? I took the picture with a camera, I don't know how to do any different. --Diamondmatter 07:59, February 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * The point is the image is not only with a bad name, but it is not good to upload an image with is a screen shot by camera, since an image like this is generally not good because of the screen line. :) -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 10:06, February 18, 2011 (UTC)

you deleted my work!
i did some work on the Transformers: Prime (franchise) page, and you deleted the work i did there. I am going to do more work on it soon so plz do not delete. 20:21, 2011 February 20


 * Your work belong to this page: Transformers: Prime (cartoon), which has been written. -- TX55   TALK </SUP> 01:00, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

Mainpage's css
Hey how'd you get the Main page to be transparent. Could you tell me what the code is, so I may use it for my wiki as well?? Thanks.:) 03:47, February 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry, the main page is not created by me. :) You can ask User:Game widow, he helped creating the current main page. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 07:57, February 21, 2011 (UTC)

War for Cybertron and Prime
I propose splitting the War for Cybertron characters and their Prime counterparts into separate articles. First of all, distinguishing the two continuities makes it easier to find the information desired, and secondly there has been no indication or acknowledgement of War for Cybertron in the Prime series thus far, and given the obvious differences in tone, style, character lineup, and target audience it's likely that the decision to group them in the same continuity was made well after production on Prime had started. Your thoughts? 98.221.25.52 03:47, March 14, 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, that was me. I forgot to log in. Xeno the Hedgehog 05:00, March 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I think we should wait until HA$BRO changes the setting. (By far, they claim the two franchise are under the same continuity.) However, IIRC, there were users from TFwiki suggesting any character only appears in WFC should be moved to "Name (WFC)". This sounds nice. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 07:51, March 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm for splitting the articles into WFC and Prime. They don't seem to be related, the characters look and sound different, and Dark energon has been introduced on two completely different ways. I think Hasbro is only keeping them the same because they are the only continuities with Dark Energon in. Helix341

He's ruining everything!
Hi,

I just saw that Starhawk7 has set up a TX55 Hate page (Posted comment for deletion). Next to that he set a sentence, about you, on the Mudflap page (I deleted it already). I don't know if he did this on other pages.


 * I deleted the hate page. Xeno the Hedgehog 23:28, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

The best thing to do is delete the page and ban Starhawk7 for a couple of (Days, weeks?). Shockwave 56 19:06, March 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thank you, all of you, for understanding and backing me up! :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 01:42, March 16, 2011 (UTC)

Don't worry TX55, everyone else is behind you! You do a great job! Helix341


 * Thank you for the support, too!! ^^ -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 06:03, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Forgive my insensitivity, but I'm curious to know why the page was created in the first place. Xeno the Hedgehog 06:21, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * I possibly know the user changes many captions without many solid contributions. I reverted most of them. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 07:09, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, so he's one of those users who thinks they're above the system. Xeno the Hedgehog 07:29, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * He thinks he's above doing things properly, and he created the hate page 'cos he was annoyed at you trying to make this site good. Did he put loads of opinions on, like saying "Starscream is a power-hungry jerk who should be ripped in half"? Kind of thing his type do... Helix341

Probably.Shockwave 56 18:25, March 22, 2011 (UTC)

Administrator
I've seen on other wiki's that there are users called administrators, who make sure the wiki is up to a good standard. Is this what you are? If so, how do you become one? Thanks, Helix341


 * I was recommended to become an admin. All I do is to make sure the contents on this site qualified the standard. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 13:05, March 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * Same here, though I still don't think I'm qualified. Xeno the Hedgehog 18:13, March 19, 2011 (UTC)

The new DOTM wiki
Hi, just want to let you know that I deleted the Vote for adminship, because we have a new wiki, now under the lead of Starscream7. Shockwave 56 18:19, March 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * Okay. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 00:28, March 21, 2011 (UTC)

WFC Wiki
Can you have a look at my new War for Cybertron Wiki? http://warforcybertron.wikia.com/wiki/Transformers:_War_For_Cybertron_Wiki Helix341 14:55, April 12, 2011 (UTC)Helix341

Airachind

 * Moved to Talk:Airachind

Knock Out (Prime)
why did you delete Knock Out (Prime)?

--RaceLord 01:44, April 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * The page contained only two bad images without any solid contents. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 08:09, April 19, 2011 (UTC)

sorry man, i was watching the episode and my webcam isn't that great, so ya

--RaceLord 03:19, April 20, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's okay. Just be sure to see how a standard page looks like before editing or creating a page. :) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 09:18, April 20, 2011 (UTC)

STOP
STOP CHANGING MY EDITS TO THE EPIC-FORMER PAGE, THE BAYFORMERS ARE AWESOME WAAAAYYYY BETTER THAN UGLY, GAY, RETARDED, BORING AND DULL G1!!! SO LEAVE THE PAGE THE WAY IT IS, EDIT IT ONE MORE TIME AND I WILL REPORT YOU FOR MAKING ME CONSTANTLY WASTE MY TIME PUTTING GOOD INFO INTO A PAGE YOU ARE MAKING LOOK BAD!!!!!!!! 10:29, 2011 April 24

STOP EDITING THE RUINEED FOREVER PAGE, PUTTING THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT TF ONTO A LIST OF THINGS THAT HAVE RUINED IT!!! THIS IS YOUR LAST CHANCE!!!! OR I WILL REPORT YOU!!!!!!! R-E-P-O-R-T Y-O-U !-!-!-! DO YOU HEAR ME!!!??? 10:36, 2011 April 24


 * I've tolerated you for discriminative language for a while, you should be careful next time or you will get banned for weeks. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 12:13, April 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * I realize we shouldn't have to do this, but perhaps it's time we added a notice to the front page explaining to new users that we operate on the notion that in order to truly appreciate something, one must be willing to satirize it. We should also include a list of the current administrative staff, to discourage any rude statements from said users, such as that in the above paragraphs. Speaking of which, is Jeep! still with us? Furthermore, would you like me to leave a message on the above user's talk page explaining the satirical nature of this wiki? Xeno the Hedgehog 06:07, April 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's a good idea to have a notion like this on the Main Page.
 * As for the admin list, judging from my experiences, I personally think it won't do any help, instead, admin may become "targets".
 * I think he is still with us as an admin last time I checked.
 * It's okay, I don't think you need to ask me before leaving the message to him. :D (Though I wonder if he will understand or even come back recently.)
 * -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 07:43, April 25, 2011 (UTC)


 * I thought we had had enough of this with Starhawk7 and the hate page... Helix341 15:33, April 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yep, there are always troubling people on the internet. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 01:14, April 27, 2011 (UTC)

Brawl
Just to actually end the confusion I named Brawl "Brawl the Devastator" Is that alright with you? 19:17, 2011 May 23


 * First of all, sign your posts. Secondly, NO it isn't! Xeno the Hedgehog 19:17, May 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * NO, because "Brawl the Devastator" is NOT OFFICIAL. And you should post on Talk:Brawl (Movie) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:05, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Message
Hey I noticed that you recently left a message on my page but I didn't see what message was yours. Have I done something wrong, if so please tell me so that I can fix the problem. Jedijam91 01:25, June 3, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can check the page history. :-) This time is about the image uploading. I've removed two images upload by you since they are duplicate and rename one image. So there is no need for fix so far. Please be careful next time. ;-) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 11:10, June 3, 2011 (UTC)

Can you send me a link to your image policy page. I don't like to keep making mistakes? Thank you. Jedijam91 01:24, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually, the links are already in your talk page and the notices given to you Category:Help and Transformers Wiki:Policies. :-) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 03:51, June 6, 2011 (UTC)




 * Is this acceptable? If it is I can go ahead and put it on Brawl's page. If not could you tell me how to fix it. Also I apologize for my inexperience with this matter. I am an avid editor of Halo Nation and I have not encountered problems like this so far which is why I am having problems like this now. Thank you. Jedijam91 19:38, June 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's okay. :D You're welcome.
 * The name is not, and there is no description. I've fixed it for you. You really need to check "Transformers Wiki:Images", which is in Template:Uploadnp/1. Hope this will help. :-) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 03:05, June 7, 2011 (UTC)

I got your message but how do you label pics for the game? Also I keep seeing that alot of the pics that I upload are no longer visible. Is that a mistake on my part of just general problems on the site? Jedijam91 02:54, June 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * When you are in the Special:Upload, there is "Summary:". Be sure to type something like (I mean "something like", not copy the whole contents without changing the information) as the below shows:

War for Cybertron Dragstrip

2010 Activision Blizzard


 * Note that the format should be kept.
 * As for the second part, I change the image names, so you should search in Special:NewFiles. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 03:00, June 8, 2011 (UTC)

Is there any way to add the  2010 Activision Blizzard

after the picture is added to the page? I have been using the add picture tool on the page edit function. Jedijam91 02:30, June 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * In that case, you can simply click the "edit" button on an image page. It is just like editing a normal page.
 * By the way. I remove the extra ".jpg" from Screamer's image name which you just upload. :) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 06:28, June 12, 2011 (UTC)

Prime
I have noticed that there is very little information available for the Prime Cartoon even though there are several episodes out already. Is this deliberate or is it just that nobody has gotten around to it yet? Jedijam91 13:30, June 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's the later: nobody has gotten around to it yet. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 16:27, June 13, 2011 (UTC)

Before I add onto Knockout's page can you tell me why his picture was removed? I'm pretty sure that I added all the correct material and named it properly. Jedijam91 02:22, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can visit Special:Log/delete. The image is removed because it is identical to the main image of Knockout on TFwiki. :)
 * Tips:You can check Special:RecentChanges whenever you access the Teletraan I. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 01:21, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Just out of curiosity, why is Teletraan 1 not allowed to use pictures that are on TFwiki? They are making it difficult for me to locate legitimate pictures of the characters. Jedijam91 02:22, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Because part of the images from TFwiki are made by the users there and only for TFwiki use. If you want to use the image here, you need to ask for permission. :) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 11:19, June 26, 2011 (UTC)

Que
why did you delete the Que page 17:26, 2011 June 24


 * Because it is poorly made. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 05:02, June 25, 2011 (UTC)

Nemesis
I noticed that the link Nemesis (Prime) goes to Trypticon's page. I recently saw in one of the new episodes that the Decepticon's ship is referred to as the Nemesis. Should someone make a new page for that ship? Jedijam91 14:12, June 26, 2011 (UTC)


 * Sorry to miss the message. Yes, the page Nemesis (Prime) should be expanded into another page. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 03:03, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

DOTM edits.
So the Edits I've made to the DOTM character pages were all right? But why'd was the Brains pic taken down? The quality was to bad? --Warpath14 14:00, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * The quality is bad, and it seems as same as the one from TFwiki, so the image was deleted. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 16:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * O.k, but I didn't get it from there, I thought that one was to small.--Warpath14 17:57, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Mirage
I'm wondering the same thing about my edits on the Mirage page. You keep adding a pic for a toy (not based on the movie) version of Mirage. It doesn't make sense.

Instead of this...

it should be this...

The pic should show the Mirage from the actual movie. The toy version isn't even a toy related to the movie. It's just a random Mirage toy. This is not a general Mirage page, it's for the movie version of Mirage. Dotm-rushhead-face.jpg is an official pic of Mirage. They were trying to keep the identities of the Transformers secret for the movie i imagine so they didn't put Mirage's actual name, but instead they used a code name. And Josh Nizzi officially worked on the movie. http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Josh_Nizzi and http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Josh_Nizzi. I also think posting a pic of the Red Ferrari 458 Italia is related to the movie, even if the pic isn't an official pic from the movie. It's Mirage's transformation. None of the set pics show the car adequately that's why I posted the pic used on the http://www.advanceautocars.com/2011/05/transformers-dark-of-the-moon-movie-transformers-3-cars-list.html/mirage-red-ferrari-458-italia-transformers-3-cars-1 People just want to see what his transformation looks like.

Even the first sentence for the intro is all wrong. It's just some random quote from the toy I imagine. It tells nothing about the actual character though. In should be a general statement outlining the character. Like a synopsis. Like..."Mirage aka Dino is a Autobot that turns into a red Ferrari 458 Italia in the live-action movie continuity family." Not..."Mirage goes goodbye! Armed with a dart rifle, electro-disruptor and the ability to create holograms, Mirage is one sneaky robot."--MochaShakaKhan 16:29, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * We don't use "Mirage aka Dino is a Autobot that turns into a red Ferrari 458 Italia in the live-action movie continuity family." because it is "breaking the fourth wall". As for the main image, it was my mistake due to an edit conflict.
 * Also, the site is not allow the set image unless they are taken officially.
 * As for the car mode, we prefer using official images, such as screen captures from the film instead of non-Transformers image as possible. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 16:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

OK, i understand alot of your reasons for doing the things you do, but that opening blurb, "Mirage goes goodbye! Armed with a dart rifle, electro-disruptor and the ability to create holograms, Mirage is one sneaky robot." It's so redundant. Why replace it with "Mirage aka Dino is a Autobot that turns into a red Ferrari 458 Italia in the live-action movie continuity family."--MochaShakaKhan 05:38, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I've mention as above: IT BREAKS THE FOURTH WALL, not to mention as a repeat contents.-- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 06:33, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

How? I thought you were talking about the Ferrari pics you took out. First off isn't a wiki supposed to be like an encyclopedia excerpt. It starts off with an intro that summarizes the basic description of the subject it talks about. Then further into the page, it breaks the subject up into sections that go into further description. That's all I did. Even if you don't use what i posted, it's better then that post. It's not even good grammar. What if it was edited like this..."Mirage aka Dino is a Autobot that turns into a red Ferrari 458 Italia." --MochaShakaKhan 07:02, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * The intro is about Mirage. We'll put new information about him after other official material is out.
 * "Mirage aka Dino is a Autobot that turns into a red Ferrari 458 Italia." is not only breaking the fourth wall, but also repeat because "Dino" and his alt mode are both mentioned in the character info box. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 07:23, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

DOTM Ships.
Is there a page for the Decepticon ships and fighters in Dark of the Moon? Because if there are I can't find them. --Warpath14 18:47, July 6, 2011 (UTC)


 * Not yet, since we don't know the name by far. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:17, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Well I think the small ones are just listed as "Decepticon Fighter craft". Don't know about the bigger carrier ships though. And why was that video on the Hatchet page taken down, that was good info.--Warpath14 08:19, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * The info was moved to Dark of the Moon (film). -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 08:28, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ok, thanks. --Warpath14 08:32, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 08:33, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Wheeljack's picture
Why the hell did you remove it? It's easily the best image we'll have of him on this wiki for a while.

Also, you really need to improve on the wiki. There is tons of horrid grammar, useless pages, etc. Admins are almost never here to fix it. So far I'd say at least 47% of the wiki's editors (counting the IP's) are doing very poorly with the site.

-- Byakuya TALK 05:07, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * As mention in the reason for deletion, "bad image with a bad name".
 * Pictures can wait. We rather want no images than bad pictures.
 * As for the wiki, thank for your notice, BUT that's what I do every day: Clean up the mess left by those who don't read site policies and their talk page.
 * 47%? I would say it is at least 52%. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 06:31, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I understand and completely agree with the name, I should of thought about that before I uploaded it, but the quality isn't THAT bad.

It's definitely better than the previous one. It may be because I screencapped it from a 1080p video, and if you want, I could edit it a little and make it look a bit better. If not, then we'll just wait until release to get a fully-HD screencap.

And for the wiki, I notice it every day, on old pages and new. And main contributors do it as well. I think we should at least give them a few tips with grammar and other things associated with the standards.

 Byakuya TALK 06:43, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm not sure what source is it from. If it is from trailers or spots, then it's okay, since the DVD is not out yet.
 * As for the wiki, I've put a site notice on the top of the page. Every one can see it before clicking the dismiss button.
 * Also, every register user will receive Newbie packet, containing Help:Contents, in the user talk page. The point is, it's a common sense to look the talk page whenever receive a new message. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 07:23, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

I got it from the TV spots. So do I have permission to put it back in?

Anyways, I just want to help the wiki and it's users as much as possible. Just wanted to give a tip on the wiki's activity, and if it matters at all, I'm an Admin on the MK Wiki, so I have some good experience with these kind of things.  Byakuya TALK 07:47, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Wait, I can restore and rename it.
 * Thank you! I appreciate your passion a lot, there are really no many helpers on this site
 * I'm glad to have an experienced editor on this site, especially an admin! ;-D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 07:58, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

No problem, man. I enjoy helping out. Now I'll try to find one for Sideswipe. -- Byakuya TALK 07:59, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oh, speaking of Sideswipe, I kept his original appearance from the live-action continuity since we usually use the first appearance as the main image. However, I put another image (with actions instead of just standing) from ROTF on his ROTF section. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 08:03, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Well I just screencapped a great close-up of his face. Before I upload it, I think I should replace the main image with it, with permission first, of course. Most wikis do this, and IMO, it's a bit silly to use an old inaccurate image to represent his page. But it's your choice. -- Byakuya TALK 08:18, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * You can upload it, the image is still need. :) And thanks for bringing the issue to my talk page.
 * As for the old one, well, not really inaccurate, but symbolic. Beside the reason I mentioned above, I choose to use his old appearance because we need to have a very different image from TFwiki, which use his current appearance as main image. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 08:22, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Done :)

 Byakuya TALK 08:27, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks, nice job! :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 08:31, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Sentinel and Optimus pic.
I thought something like this: Dotm-sentinelprime&optimusprime-film-matrix.jpg Was to long for a file designation, that's why I used a short one, sorry. --Warpath14 15:09, July 7, 2011 (UTC)


 * That's okay, no need to be sorry. ;D - TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 15:28, July 7, 2011 (UTC)

Igor
Is "Megatron's imp" a valid statement for function on his profile? I added that, I just wondered if that was ok.


 * I don't have particular opinion. Let's just use the description for now until any further information comes out, if there will be any. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 12:53, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * O.K, I think "Megatron's imp" works though, ads a certain...humour to the page. --Warpath14 12:59, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

?
Why did this come up when I made an edit on Movie Optimus Primes page: "Cite error: tags exist, but no tag was found." ? -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 15:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * It's just a small mistake in an edit because there is a comment tag without a closing tag. I've fixed it. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 15:15, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

ok, thanks, tx. :D --Warpath14 15:54, July 8, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. :) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 23:20, July 8, 2011 (UTC)

Fusion Cannon
I noticed that the edit I made in the movie section of the Fusion cannon page was removed. Was it because the weapon that Megatron uses in DOTM is not his Fusion cannon. I sounds the same and fires the same blue bolt, it only looks different. Jedijam91 20:07, July 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Actually it fires a yellow bolt. --Warpath14 23:35, July 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * It needs official source to confirm whether it is a fusion cannon or not. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 03:49, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Decepticon ships
I made a page for the Decepticon ships, see here --> Decepticon ships (DOTM). I wanted to know what yo think, instead of making separate page for carriers and fighters, I did both on the same page with different articles, I think it looks good. Your opinion. --Warpath14 23:35, July 9, 2011 (UTC)


 * Looks fine to me. However, I think the Fighter craft section should be split out into a new article. Ps. you forgot to categorize the page. :) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 03:46, July 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Oops, I don't know how to categorize pages. --Warpath14 09:38, July 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Just type in the bottom of the page. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 11:44, July 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, ok thanks. :) --Warpath14 11:59, July 10, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 15:51, July 10, 2011 (UTC)

Shockwave DOTM Picture
Should we change the picture on Shockwave (Movie) to conform to the new one? I have a good picture that is not on TFWiki. 01:29, 2011 July 11


 * The original appearance should be kept, but a new image is welcome as well. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:07, July 11, 2011 (UTC)

Mirage
PLEASE stop adding the Charstub, it goes through his character template and ruins the page. -- Byakuya TALK 11:23, July 12, 2011 (UTC)


 * But the page is a character stub. Ruining page is because the wikia changed the system last time and they didn't do well. I'll figure if there is a solution. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 17:26, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Barricade
I suggest locking the page completely. It's getting a bit out of hand now. People remove all this info just because they think differently. -- Byakuya TALK 01:50, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I have removed it anyway, because it appears that someone copied and pasted the bulk of it from TFWiki. --Tetrap 02:44, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

No, I did this myself. Someone copied OUR info to theirs. -- Byakuya TALK 02:47, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Really? Your change with the current wording was done on July 5. Somehow it matches the text of the article on TFWiki from July 3. --Tetrap 02:51, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

I thought you meant the most current info HERE. I took some segments from the TFWiki and added the completely new info. The parts you see from TFWiki were simply borrowed. If they do not abide to the rules, I can simply do the whole thing over again. -- Byakuya TALK 03:03, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * TX55 has mentioned on the Community portal that copying from there is not allowed. I guess the best bet would be to start from the revision before the one I linked to there. --Tetrap 03:34, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Although I didn't copy the WHOLE article. -- Byakuya TALK 16:50, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I remember when I tried to rewrite a copied article, I did it very POORLY and made people though it was me who copied the article. Copying (I'm not saying copied thing to our site and make some change on it.) the "bone" may work (since the fact is the same, the only difference is how editors describe that fact)  if the skin are totally different. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 16:56, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think there's much of a distinction between copying a whole article and large chunks of an article. It does say on the policy page "Teletraan 1 requires that the copyright on all submitted article content be held solely by the uploader." I think while that's specifically in a section about copying from Wikipedia, it is a general rule we should be following. --Tetrap 21:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, I rebuilt the article and re-added some of the new non-copied info from the last time. I must warn you that it does sound similar, but NOTHING is copied. -- Byakuya TALK 02:56, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

DOTM
Hey TX, as no one has asked you yet I though I'd ask you my self. Did you like Dark of the Moon? --Warpath14 09:05, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * Honestly, not quite, although DOTM is better than ROTF in someway. DOTM would be a good movie if several things got changed or improved. :) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 16:28, July 13, 2011 (UTC)

JPGs
Why do they have to be written a certain way? --Warpath14 17:45, July 13, 2011 (UTC)


 * You mean the image name standard? Because it makes them easily to be categorizing. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:45, July 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes I suppose I meant that, thanks TX. :) --Warpath14 08:25, July 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. ;-D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 09:50, July 14, 2011 (UTC)

Picture Sharing
You said earlier that Teletraan 1 cannot use pictures on TFWiki unless permission has been given from the user who uploaded the picture on that wiki. How exactly does one going about obtaining permission to use one of their pictures and then how do we inform Teletraan 1 that permission has been given? Jedijam91 20:51, July 14, 2011 (UTC)


 * Check which TFwiki user upload the image, then leave a message on the user's talk page on TFwiki to ask if he or she can lend the image to you. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:29, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * The image in question is that of Shockwave. If I do procure that image can it be used on his profile on Teletraan 1? Also, I noticed that you removed my edit to the Null-ray page about the DOTM game. What did I do wrong? Jedijam91 02:41, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Um, the reason why I insist the old one is not only it is his first appearance, but I want to keep the main image different to the one on TFwiki, just like Optimus Prime (Movie), Megatron (Movie), and Devastator (ROTF).
 * I didn't revert it, I just hide it because there are still something to be explained and expanded: How do you know it is Null-ray with a new name? -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:52, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * We can still use the image for the DOTM section. The Sniper Rifle in the DOTM game functions exactly the same as the Null-ray in WFC. Since both games use the same engine it is likely that the only difference in the two is cosmetic. The same goes to all the other weapons articles that I edited recently. They are basically the same weapon with cosmetic differences and slight damage up/downgrades. Jedijam91 03:33, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Put it in the DOTM section sound good.
 * I see, I've rewrote it now. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 03:39, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Bad News
Bad News.

On Barricade123's Transformers: Dark of the Moon Wiki, he blocked me for no reason - but he's trashed the site anyway, I'm ordering an evacuation of the site to another one. Would you mind blocking Barricade? He's gotten to a point where he's annoyed everyone.

--Lord Starscream|Transformers: Dark of the Moon|(Earth Goes Dark - June 29th)|Be Afraid Of The Dark 00:08, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry to hear that. As for the blocking, no, I can't block him because he didn't do anything wrong in Teletraan-1. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:22, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Target
I've added a page fro the Target chain of stores, See here I think it was needed after all the exclusive figures and comics they release. --Warpath14 12:11, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Despite the lack you mention, but Nice work! :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 17:37, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks! :D --Warpath14 17:42, July 15, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. ;) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 17:49, July 15, 2011 (UTC)

Walmart
As there is now a page for Target, should there be one for Walmart.? They do alot of exclusives to.--Warpath14 12:24, July 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * Of course there should be!! ;-D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 18:24, July 16, 2011 (UTC)


 * I'll get right on it then! :D --Warpath14 19:29, July 16, 2011 (UTC)

Admins
I really think you should have more admins here. Such as Warpath14, he does a great job on here. -- Byakuya TALK 06:25, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for notice. :D
 * Speaking of which, I do consider to ask you and him for becoming rollback users. (Because you have admin experience, while Warpath14 knows the editing standards.) As for admin, I may have to bring the issue in the community portal, since I have been questioned if there are too many admins (and some of them become less active) earlier before, that's why I haven't ask him if he is interesting in being an admin. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 09:38, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I wouldn't mind, but like you say, I don't know how "active" I would be.--Warpath14 09:53, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Then I'll added both of you as rollback users. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 10:02, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Cool! Thanks T X, though what does that mean exactly? --Warpath14 10:10, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome. :D
 * "Rollback" is an advanced version of "undo" function, by just clicking the "Rollback", all the continuous edits by the same user can be reverted. ^^ When you see "Reverted edits by Vandalizer (talk) to last version by User" in the RecentChanges, that means me or somebody else use the Rollback function. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 11:25, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * Ah, right, thanks again! :D --Warpath14 17:22, July 17, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it, TX55. -- Byakuya TALK 18:55, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * You're welcome, guys. ;-D

Family Guy
I was thinking, Family Guy do a lot of references to Transformers. Some quit rare ones, like Stewie playing with TF: Zone Starscream, and Optimus Prime being Jewish. I think its a needed page. it should be called: Transformers in family Guy, or just: Family guy.

Your thoughts? --Warpath14 22:40, July 17, 2011 (UTC)


 * I don't think we need the page, since it is not direct related to Transformers. However, each reference can be placed under characters' "Notes" section, just like how we handle the Robot Chicken.
 * But if you really want to created, you can created it as an user subpage like "User:Warpath14/Family Guy". ;-) -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:13, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

I suggest making a Transformers in Other Media page. -- Byakuya TALK 10:20, July 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * If we have this page, then we have to include the episode of Panty and Stocking with Garterbelt that references damn near everything that the Transformers franchise has produced. Somehow, it is still less disturbing/offensive than Kiss Players. Xeno the Hedgehog 04:08, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Yes, you're right. I'm going to created the section, but it may require helps in the contents.


 * Sound good to me. :D -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:08, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * That sounds good, by the way, the Xantium page needs to be changed to Xanthium, I saw the film again today, and I'm sure that's how it was pronounced. --Warpath14 18:39, July 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * It is pronounced Xanthium in the movie but the original G1 version was spelled Xantium. Jedijam91 18:59, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
 * I was talking about the one from DOTM. --Warpath14 19:03, July 18, 2011 (UTC)


 * But last time I check, it is still Xantium, IIRC, it's just a pronunciation instead of the spelling. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:08, July 19, 2011 (UTC)


 * oh. Like the T in listen, and the P in psyche. I got ya. --Warpath14 08:32, July 19, 2011 (UTC)

Prequel comics section

 * Moved to Talk:Shockwave (Movie)

Stealth Force
Should there be a page for "Stealth Force" as it appears in Dark of the Moon, the film and the game. It should fall under the weapons category. Your thoughts? Come to think of it, is there one for the toys either? --Warpath14 22:20, July 21, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why not? It should be created. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 01:49, July 22, 2011 (UTC)

Warpath (Movie)

 * ''Move to Talk:Warpath (Movie)

Ransack
Why was the Ransack Pic I uploaded deleted, what was wrong with it. I uploaded it again, delete it if you must. --Warpath14 18:11, July 23, 2011 (UTC)


 * It is identical to the one in TFwiki except for the size. -- TX55  <SUP> TALK </SUP> 02:36, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * Why does it matter if it's the same. It's the only one on the net. Anyway I've changed the pic a bit, is it now acceptable?--Warpath14 08:36, July 24, 2011 (UTC)

Article name change
Hello! im Delta Prime. im new here and was first wandering if there are any projects that need done around here i could do. the other thing, is that i noticed that there is a Mirage (Movie) page. your thoughts on changing the name to "Dino (Movie)?" mainly because of the fact that he really didnt end up as Mirage in the movie and unlike Wheeljack (Movie) who was listed as Que/Wheeljack, he was simply listed as "Dino" in the credits. its just my opinion that he was more of a totally new character, then a take on an old one.

Please give me your thoughts, and see you around! --Delta Prime 03:22, July 24, 2011 (UTC)


 * It can't be changed, he is officially Mirage. That's the way he was listed in the game. And if a tpy comes out, that'll be called mirage too. --Warpath14 09:02, July 24, 2011 (UTC)