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Here's an excerpt of the interview with George Dunsay, senior vice president of reasearch and development at Hasbro, who confirmed that Floro Dery is the designer of the transforming planet Unicron, and here's the link http://www.tfarchive.com/fandom/interviews/george_dunsay/george_dunsay_interview.php

"Nevermore: When you say "Marvel", do you mean Marvel/Sunbow? Because currently it's considered an established fact that the original designs for the movie toys came from Sunbow, particularly from a Mr Floro Dery, who also claims credit for being largely responsible for the designs from the first two seasons of the cartoon series (before that, it was assumed that Marvel Comics' John Romita was responsible for those designs).

George Dunsay: As far as who actually did the designs for the movie toys, I cannot say. I had assumed it was Marvel. In any event it wasn't Takara or Hasbro R&D. We in R&D who controlled everything to that point were told what was going to be made. This was a major departure for the process at Hasbro at that time. R&D always initiated the product, usually with Takara ideas.

The first two years of cartoon products follow Takara designs. Optimus Prime, Bumblebee, etc. designs were from Takara products, not from Griffin-Bacal.

Floro Dery - he could have come up with the transforming planet. Takara took the direction from R&D to create that product. We were asked by marketing..."

See now how you people twist the facts! Your articles are trash! -Charlie


 * That doesn't confirm anything other than George Dunsay doesn't know for sure. He says Floro Dery could have designed Unicron.  Words mean things!  --ItsWalky 22:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Definitely, it's not the Japanese artists as pointed out by Dunsay because it wasn't Takara and Hasbro R&D! And if not Floro Dery, then who's the designer? - Charlie
 * Where is your visual evidence that you designed it, Mr. Dery? -- SFH 22:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Takara came up with the idea of a transforming planet for their Diaclone line which predates Transformers by a good number of years. What we're disputing is that Dery claims he came up with the concept of a transforming planet, which is not true. --Detour 22:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Right. I don't doubt Floro Dery designed Unicron for the movie.  What's in dispute is his claim that he came up with the concept of a transforming planet, when we have a Japanese concept drawing of a transforming planet that predates Transformers itself.  --ItsWalky 22:57, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

I have already told you, I'm not Floro Dery. You people are really confused. Anyway, there's an original design of Unicron posted in Mr. Dery's website, Here's the link

http://hometown.aol.com/celydery/unicron.html

- Charlie
 * And again you completely ignore what we're saying. Floro Dery has made claims that the entire concept of a transforming planet was his idea, in spite of the fact that Takara's designers had toyed with the idea many, many years before he started working on Transformers. --Detour 23:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

OK, then where's the visual proof for Japanese Transforming planet?

-Charlie
 * Don't have them but I'm sure someone on this wiki has them. Walky? Oh, and also, interesting side note, "Charlie"'s IP address is from LA. Isn't that where Mr. Dery resides? --Detour 23:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * [[Image:Planet-robot.jpg]] This be it. --ItsWalky 23:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

You people are really fishing for something. Mr. Dery in his website said that he lives in Manila. Besides, different computer users may have the same IP address. Come on, correct your informations, other people may think that you people are confused.

So, you people don't have the visual for Japanese transforming planet? You have no proof, just speculations! Pity! Really your articles are trash!

- Charlie
 * The picture was JUST POSTED you freakin' idiot! How much more visual can it get??
 * Also, I've read here and there that Dery resides in LA, so. --Detour 23:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

The picture you posted was based on Mr. Dery's design of the transforming planet Unicron. Show the proof when it was created. Don't call me an idiot, I did not insult you, did I? Really, pity! - Charlie
 * You have called our articles trash, which indirectly insults us. -- SFH 23:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
 * How can it be based on Dery's design when it was made years before Transformers were made? Freakin' crazy Dery troll...--Detour 23:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Calling an article trash is different from insulting a person, you people are getting personal. By the way, I'm half Japanese, and I speak, read and write Japanese. So be careful in posting Japanese drawings with Japanese texts.

- Charlie
 * Fine, troll. If you're so Japanese, what does the text say? And keep in mind I study Japanese and know what some of it says so you can't bullshit me. --Detour 00:10, 7 January 2008 (UTC)