User talk:FFN

Captions
Not to try and start a fight or anything, but who made you the arbiter of what makes a "good" caption or not? If you don't have a better caption to put there, then do you really need to edit it out? If you have something better, go ahead and edit it in, but there's was it really necassary to remove all of my changes?

I mean, I though the "Amazing what 23 years will do to ones physique" one was pretty clever, myself.--UndeadScottsman 09:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Because I say so and I am a jerk! *puts on a crown and purple cloak of royalty*. Seriously, that one you quoted was okay, I accidently pruned that one, but I wasn't hot on some of the others. In my opinion, captions should be thought about, and we shouldn't just caption a pic for the sake of having a caption or doing a joke. --FFN 10:27, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Movie toy information
We should not put information about leaked/stolen/whatever test shots on the wiki. It's been an unspoken rule since, well, forever, but I guess we need to put it in writing somewhere. It's just not cool. --ItsWalky 19:08, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, we have that "Coming Soon" tag made SPECIFICALLY for this (well, and Fan Club stuff). --M Sipher 19:35, 14 April 2007 (UTC)


 * What I find amusing is that I merely modified (slightly) the Energon Arcee toy description. Eh. *Shrugs shoulders* Whatever. --FFN 20:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * You also wrote the entire toy write-up for Blackout's Voyager toy and also recently wrote a description of Optimus Prime's 3" titanium figurine. You seem to be writing the bulk of the movie toy writeups.  --ItsWalky 21:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Yep, I wrote/expanded half or more of the toy articles on this wiki. --FFN 04:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That's cool, and more than appreciated, but in the future, let's wait until we have more than test shots to do so. --ItsWalky 04:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Aren't you absolutely amazed at how I was able to deduce the transformation sequence and gimmick of toys I've never seen in person? My engineering schooling did pay off! :-O --FFN 04:56, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

You're kind of missing the point. It's the OFFICIALNESS of the information and the slippery slope of putting in stuff that's not officially announced. We don't want this wiki to become yet another goddamn Internet Rumor Dumping Ground. See: Help:Coming_soon --M Sipher 05:54, 15 April 2007 (UTC)


 * No, I'm not missing the point. I'm just dancing around it like the salsa. Ole! --FFN 06:06, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Profile pics
I don't think we're adhering to "fair use" if every single page on the wiki uses art scanned from the DW MTMTE books. Try to reel it in some! --ItsWalky 03:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Nah, I won't be doing that. --FFN 03:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * But you are doing it! It's why I brought it up.  --ItsWalky 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * You might wanna clarify exactly what it is you won't be doing. --M Sipher 03:22, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * It was a joke, as in "Nah, I won't be doing what you just asked me to do." --FFN 03:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Just a thought - what is the limit on the usage of pictures ultimately owned by Hasbro? Dreamwave as a company no longer exists. --FFN 07:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, IDW plans to publish the MTMTE books, so I think we have to also take that into consideration. --ItsWalky 07:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * Oh well, at least I gave pics to articles that didn't originally have pics/wrong models by Dery/crappy G1 box art. I'll stop for... awhile *mysterious* --FFN 07:52, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
 * I like G1 boxart. Especially Omega Supreme's. -LV 16:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Underscores
You don't need to put underscores in links. The format is just something, not something. --Monzo 17:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Alright thanks, though I might forget and put them anyway, occasionally. --FFN 17:41, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Miranda II
And there I thought someone would complain about bashing, or something. :) - Chris McFeely 20:00, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm pretty sure Energon is fair game. You know, like NAMbLA.  --ItsWalky 20:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Yeah, when you ruin a perfectly good, interesting character by resurrecting him as a gorilla-like dump truck who serves only as slapstick comic relief (and not even good comic relief), you deserve everything you get, stupid Takara Marketing and WE'VE! *shakes fist of fanboy fury* --FFN 20:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Man. Demolishor's article needs, like, made not crap. - Chris McFeely 20:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Feel free to do so. I get too fanboyish for this wiki whenever I write about stuff I like (like Armada Starscream). --FFN 20:32, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Formatting
It's not all that messy-looking if the main image juts into fiction section some of the time. I find it's a case-by-case scenario. Miranda II looked fine with the jut, but not so much to make it worth editing it back the other way. It's not a hard and fast rule, is what I guess I'm saying. --ItsWalky 16:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * The problem is by having the main picture jut into the main text body, you have the text bunched up to one side, and it pushes the edit link into the middle of the screen. Frankly that looks chaotic.
 * Not really. Not on that article, no.  It just looked like text wrapped around an image.  To me, it looked much cleaner the other way.  See how subjective this is? --ItsWalky 16:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)


 * The way I see it, we should use it when the article has relatively few sub-sections (which leads to a smaller Contents menu), or when the main picture is relatively long (like a profile picture of a character). Or when using it doesn't create a huge gap between the introductory text/main pic, the contents menu and the main body of text in the article. --FFN 16:31, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Can't you just... make the image smaller if this is such a problem? I find blank white space to be incredibly hideous, moreso than a misplaced edit link. Interrobang 17:00, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Depends on the picture itself. Some images deserve to be big, because they look great or because the focus would be hard to see. Misplaced links and pics into text reminds me of late 90s fanpages. --FFN 23:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

All those toypics you've uploaded
Toypics don't get a hastak tag unless they are offical images (say stock photos). Photos of objects (except scans or photos containing only printed material) are copyright of whoever took the picture. Hasbro holds just as much right to the copyright for a unoffical toypic as say, Sony owns the rights for a picture of my computer. --FortMax 03:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)


 * The problem is some of those toy pics are scans out of some official publication, or some official picture that the fansite edited together. So I give copyright to Hasbro, but credit to the site, especially if I cannot find the original official pictures. Sometimes I forget to use fairuse on specifically fan-shot photographs. If it bothers you that much, feel free fix all the picture pages with fairuse.--FFN 11:06, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

anonymous and minor edits
Just do you know, anonymous editors don't have a minor edit option. Dunno why, though.
 * Odd - maybe its to spur us into suggesting them to register? :P --FFN 06:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

Safeword debate
Hi there, PacifistPrime here. I appreciate that you think the link to the definition of "safeword" is a little much (although, frankly, I've seen some pretty risque stuff on this wiki anyway), and although I disagree I'm happy for the link to be removed. However, I think it is definitely an overreaction to change the caption; after all I added that specific image solely for the purpose of that joke. Without the link young kids won't get it and won't be "harmed", and those who do get it are alread in the know. However, rather than just unilaterally reverting it (sans link), I thought I'd give you the opportunity to discuss the matter further if you wish. If I don't hear from you back on my talk page in a few days, then I'll change it back. Cheers, PacifistPrime
 * Yeah, you're probably right about that; if it goes over their heads, let it. I'll change it back without the link. Cheers, PacifistPrime.
 * FFN, you mentioned that you changed the caption back to the clean joke because nobody refuted your point... The thing is, I haven't been able to find where you made your argument for its change in the first place. Not on Starscream's talk page, and not here... How can we refute your point if no one knows where it is? That being said, I personally agree with Pacifist Prime.  It's no more offensive or risque than some of the other stuff on here (i.e. Transformers Collectors' Club or anything relating to Kiss Players), and without the link it's no longer harmful in the slightest.  Besides, the new caption is pretty lame and practically screams, "I couldn't think of anything better than this." - Dark T Zeratul 06:55, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I was referring to my discussion with Walky over MP Starscream's incorrect F-15E colours, and I sorta reverted Walky's edit back to the original with modifications (with hooperx's Titanium 3" caption) to my original MP Starscream paragraph, with added notes about Starscream's other glaring inaccuracies. That's what I meant by 'nobody refuted my point'.
 * At no point did I change the safeword caption, given that Pacifist Prime and I already resolved that, like, weeks ago, and I advised that to make the joke work, he didn't need to link the meaning for people, because A. The link to the meaning is abit inappropriate given our wiki's topic, and B. Its hitting people over the head with the joke. If the joke flies over people's heads, let it.
 * If you had checked the article history, or the Recent changes page, you'll see an anonymous user made the change to the caption. In any case, it wasn't me. --FFN 09:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, see, I saw your comment in the history that said something about reverting to a previous caption because no one refuted your point, and assumed this was what you were referring to. My apologies. - Dark T Zeratul 20:18, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries. --FFN 22:52, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

MP Megs importation to Australia.
Well, what can I say? I got mine (two of them, in fact: one for my buddy) from HobbyLinkJapan (scum) with no troubles. Customs didn't even open it. Maybe I was just lucky, but I suspect that those toyshops only got that response from the fuzz because they asked in the first place. In fact, they may very well have tipped them off and made it harder for everyone else to import them now. Who knows? Cheers, PacifistPrime.
 * Um, hi. This is actually somewhat old news, as I haven't checked in for a week or so, but I respectfully suggest that you're overracting just a whisker. I was unaware that there had been further developments for other Australian fans importing the MP-05; as I've stated elsewhere I don't spend any time on discussion boards so I wouldn't know about any of that. If my original few lines on the subject (admittedly based solely on my personal experience of problem-free importation) is no longer representative of the majority, then I have no objection whatsoever to the text being revised.
 * However, I think that your edit is a bit of an overlong rave and (at the risk of sounding more Seppocentric than is my wont) I have to say that I don't think Australia's situation really requires as much text as that concerning the States'. Furthermore, I think that your rebuttal "Eat that, Australia" is particularly uneccessary. First of all it sounds like a rather mean-spirited bit of one-upmanship over a comment which, although I'll conceed was smug, was only meant in the kind of good humour that this site broadly embraces (such as its pervasive mockery of Japanese fiction). Your comment sounds quite barbed by comparison, in my opinion. But regardless of any issues of opinion it frankly doesn't make sense, because it is referring to a previous edit which no longer exists in the current text, so to any newcomer reading it the comment has no context. For this reason most of all I have taken it upon myself to remove that one line, but I have left your preceding paragraph untouched. However I urge you to reconsider its neccessity and respectfully suggest that you cut it down considerably.
 * All the best, PacifistPrime.


 * If you are so offended by the fact I made fun of Australia (and I suspect its abit of misplaced patriotism right after ANZAC day), then you shouldn't make fun of America, especially given our toy gun laws are even harsher. --FFN 02:38, 26 April 2007 (UTC)


 * Err... okay. I respectfully suggest that you're missing the point: I'm not offended, nor am I particularly patriotic. In fact, I'm a dual Austalian/American citizen, so your comments regarding my national identity are actually fairly irrelevant. And uncalled for. Don't you think personal remarks on this site are a bit untoward?
 * I just think that your edit gives the impression of being a bit personal, as though you were miffed about my original text, rather than containing material of particular relevance to other readers/users, especially your sardonic rebuttal. Again, my original crack was intended in good humour, so it seems that it is you who are the one getting offended. Perhaps this is not the case, and if so I apologise.
 * But regardless of that I still maintain that the content makes little sense. Please re-read my previous post for my reasons for this.
 * Ta, PacifistPrime.
 * Sorry mate. --FFN 05:05, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * It's okay, I just don't understand what it is about my edits that seem to routinely rub you up the wrong way. I'm just trying to get into the spirit of the site and its refreshingly relaxed attitude compared to other uptight wikis like Wookieepedia. You seem to know a fair bit about Australia, and I'm certainly not out to offend anyone, but you seem to take exception to a fair bit of what I have to say. I don't really understand. PacifistPrime.
 * Dr. Fang says its because I'm high-strung. And I'm kind of an asshole. Sorry about that, chap. --FFN 05:19, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * Okay then, I guess. So, will you please consider trimming the Australian stuff on the MP-05? I just honestly doubt other people need to know so much about gun laws. Cheers, PacifistPrime.

Admin

 * Excuse me I'm looking for a admin here, do you know where I can find one?Troyb(CIS ShadowFeed) contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 16:09, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hi, unfortunately, I believe they're all at BotCon right now. Specifically they probably just left the Hasbro product panel. --FFN 16:12, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Grr because I'm here from the new Transfanon wiki, were knida your sister wiki or whatever and I'm a buericrate there so I need someone to tell others about it.Troyb(CIS ShadowFeed) contribs[[Image:Troyb2.jpg|20px]] 18:31, 1 July 2007 (UTC)


 * From the community portal - The admins for this Wiki are User:ItsWalky and User:Suki Brits. Just leave them a message and they'll get back sooner or later. --FFN 18:57, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

Screencaps
Where'd you download the movie? You seem to have uploaded some pretty high quality images of the movie that haven't appeared in any of the trailers


 * They're all from the trailers and tv spots (highres, low res ect). For instance, the pic of Figueroa reacting to Sgt. Donnelly is from 'Vibration', released around May 22nd. Prime transforming in Mission City and the pics of Bumblebee standing around are from 'Freakout' (June 15). Prime jumping on/towards Megatron, Ironhide transforming and shooting his cannons in a somersault are from the Superherohype exclusive trailer that was also played during an NBA playoff or something on June 24. --FFN 02:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Animated toy pictures
Well, the official pictures of the toy wont come out for a LOOOOONG time, so untill then, I'm uploading some bad, blurry ones, because they STILL better than nothing. Tried to give a long description of Lockdown, but somebody just deleted it easly. Also, almost all pictures at the animated ones are blurry and in weird angles, so not mines are the first. And I made them with Paint, not Powerpoint.


 * That still doesn't mean we just dump any pics onto this wiki. The series and the toyline won't be out for a long time, so no real reason to have a bunch of pictures now, given there is relatively little information about the series itself.


 * Powerpoint as in, Hasbro's powerpoint presentation at SDCC. --FFN 19:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Actually, we know pretty mutch about the series and the toys, but you guys don't let any info of it to be putten on, because they're "leaked". So that's it. --Hepathos 21:36, 8 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Any information that isn't official released about a project that is coming soon does not belong here because this wiki (usually) follows what is official, not what is unconfirmed. If you want rumour-mongering, go to the wikipedia. --FFN 06:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Stubs
Why do you move the stub tags to the top of pages? --ItsWalky 01:42, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * I feel that Articles that need some filling out should say 'HEY! This article really needs work!' in an obvious manner. Its one of the things other wikis do that I think we should emulate, if only to get people (either registered or unregistered) to finish off these articles. --FFN 09:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * If what needed filling out was easy and simple to do, maybe, but filling some stubs would take weeks of solid work, so having a giant skyscraper of tags at the top of several articles seems excessively frustrating. --ItsWalky 15:12, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I forgot most of you guys run at lower resolution (judging by screencaps), so I misjudged how bad the messageboxes would be. Sorry man. --FFN 15:16, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Bonecrusher quote
Since Bonecrusher doesn't speak in the film, could you put an attribution for the quote you added to the top of his page? I'm sure I'm not the only one who will wonder where he said it. --Steve-o 17:42, 13 October 2007 (UTC)